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Marconi
Advanced Member
Username: Marconi
Post Number: 757
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 6:03 pm: | 
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That is a very impressive difference. Depending on the sensitivity of the receive radio meters, this could be from 6 - 18 db advantage for the Z-180 and the other antenna.
Do you have any idea what is making these two mobile antennas so superior to the Wilsons?
It sure would have been nice to have posted some of the actual signal reports you recorded in some nice columnar format for comparison at different ranges.
What is going on at the tip of the Z-180 that makes its anti-static feature work so much better than the others?
Did any antenna fail to communicate at the longer ranges during these test?
What mode did you use?
You mentioned that you used the same mount for each test. You also note that you used a switch. What was the purpose for the switch? |
1861
Advanced Member
Username: 1861
Post Number: 679
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 7:47 pm: |
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I think he used switch for the two different radios employed . I would like to know how the antenna lays down without removing -- that might be something that would interest me |
Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1190
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 8:05 pm: |
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well after many years with wilsons antenna ive noticed they are slightly noiser than others.
when i tested it against my 19.99 dollar anttron
1700. the anttron was much quieter.but i still
heard everyone at 30 miles with the same s-unit reading just less static/white noise/atmosphere noise.not taking anything away from wilson just
what ive experiene thru the years and several testing against many other antennas
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 14492
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 7:55 am: |
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Marconi,
Sorry for the delay in answering this but with 5 hours in the Saturday Night Voice Chat last night answering questions LIVE and chatting with the other CVC Member's I was just having to much fun to check/read posts in the forum.
I will address your question's in order.
#1 ~ That is a very impressive difference. Depending on the sensitivity of the receive radio meters, this could be from 6 - 18 db advantage for the Z-180 and the other antenna.
Answer:
The meters of Both the Superstar SS-185DX and Magnum S-9-175 were both 100% stock and registered exactly the same signal strength readings and were also checked against my S-3200B / Ranger 2995DX with a solid tone being transmitted to check calibration. Thus giving both radios a +/- of 1 - S-unit difference.
#2 ~Do you have any idea what is making these two mobile antennas so superior to the Wilsons?
Answer:
I can only guess the difference in the Siro and the Z-180 is that they are newly designed antenna's built to specific specifications by Siro and RM rather than using a 10-15 year old design used by other manufacturers.
#3 ~ What is going on at the tip of the Z-180 that makes its anti-static feature work so much better than the others?
Answer:
That is a NEW/EXCLUSIVE design feature by the Manufacturer of the Z-180 that was not disclosed to me.
#4 ~ Did any antenna fail to communicate at the longer ranges during these test?
Answer: No
#5 ~ What mode did you use?
Answer:
AM/FM/LSB/USB
#6 ~ You mentioned that you used the same mount for each test. You also note that you used a switch. What was the purpose for the switch?
Answer:
What I said was:
NOTE!
All 4 Antennas are Base Loaded and were tested using the Wilson SO-239 Mag Mount bases as all antennas are compatible with the Standard SO-239 connector on the Wilson Mag Mount bases.
Testing was performed in side by side (all 4 antennas on roof) at: 5/10/15/20/25/and 30 miles Parked and at 65 mph & 90 mph using a Transmitter/Antenna Switch.
Testing was also performed with just a single antenna mounted in center of roof for comparison with the vehicle being mobile and parked at: 5/10/15/20/25/and 30 miles.
Testing was performed by recording the mobile signal's from the antennas to the base station's and the base station's signal's to the mobile radio's over 12 different days.
#7 ~ You mentioned that you used the same mount for each test. You also note that you used a switch. What was the purpose for the switch?
Answer:
I used "2" Wilson Mag Mount's for side by side testing when using 2 antennas and 4 ~ Wilson Mag Mounts in testing all 4 antennas for side by side testing against each other.
The MFJ 1700B Antenna Switch was used to switch between the 2 radios radios and the 4 antennas which gave me less than a second to flip the switch from 1 radio to another and between all 4 antennas running down the road when mobile and parked for testing.
NOTE!
As for the calibration of of the meters of: CEF#166, CEF#165, CEF#159, CEF#196 and the MANY other CEF Radio Club Member's who helped with actual signal reports I cannot verify how thier meters were set.
Hope this help's,
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 14495
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 12:01 pm: |
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1861,
The Antenna can be folded over/layed down, as there is a ball swivel mount attached to the stinger/coil. 
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1207
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 10:46 am: |
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lon got 2 questions for ya.
1]what was your swrs on the z-180 and the bandwith?i know what the manufacture claims
im more interested in operators findings
2]how do ya adjust the swrs on this antenna if need be?
again i read the review but couldnt find this info.i did see the manufacture claim for bandwith
though
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
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Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1208
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 8:37 pm: |
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would also like to see a picture of it mounted on wilson mount
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 14530
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 12:15 pm: |
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Dale,
Sorry for the delay,
SWR:
11 Meter
27.965 = 1.1
27.205 = 1.0
27.405 = 1.1
10 Meter
28.500 = 1.2
29.000 = 1.3
12 Meter
24.705 = 1.3
24.990 = 1.3
You can adjust the SWR if needed by removing the whip just like on all of the other antennas and triming the stinger.
But I have found no reason to adjust anything for 10/11/12 meter use.
Below is the picture you requested with the Z-180 and the Wilson Mag Mount.
Note!
All of the headstones in the background is from all of the other antennas it outperforms. 
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1212
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 3:08 pm: |
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thank-you lon.i like the part about the headstones.i did a search for the other antenna
ya reviewed and on a ad says gotta twist the bottom down by the coil.1way for 26mhz and other way for 28mhz.didnt know if this antenna was the same or not.honestly couldnt really tell from
copper ad.why i asked ya if you could post a pic
gonna find out what the shipping is and may get one myself.thank-you again lon
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1216
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 5:46 pm: |
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just ordered a z-180.hopefully ill have same results as lon.anyone else trying this antenna out.if so id like to hear about if ya already have it.or when ya get it and get it set up.
soon as i get mine ill post back with my results also
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Wolverine
Advanced Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 670
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 5:57 am: |
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I'm curious, why did the Wilson 1000 come in at #3, and the Wilson 5000 at #4, I thought that it would be the other way around, seeing that the coil in the 5000 is wound with 6 guage wire (I believe) plus it has bigger coax to hold more wattage????. enquiring minds would like to know, thanks.
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 14534
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 6:52 am: |
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I rated them at #3 & #4 because both were measurably nosier on receive than the other 2 antennas and both had roughly the same performance on TX and RX which was lower than the other 2 antennas as stated in my review.
Bigger coils and coax does not always mean better performance only that it is rated to take more input power from a transmitter.
And 1000 comes before 5000 so that is how I listed them.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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1861
Advanced Member
Username: 1861
Post Number: 684
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 8:28 am: |
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Yep , I ordered me one yesterday . |
Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1219
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 5:32 pm: |
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me also. boy copper is busy mailing out these antennas.lol
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1222
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 6:59 pm: |
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Z-180 its here.
well i recived my package from coppers today.
and after unpacking the antenna the first thing
i noticed was the stinger is noticablely
bigger than the wilson.i havent had time to
test it but tell ya what my swts were perfect
on cb band.and like lon said the recieve is
quieter than the wilson.i still heard 777 inb
saracoda,fla.on 38lsb just as good as the wilson
unfortantely i cant find any of my locals for
a good test but so far so good
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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1861
Advanced Member
Username: 1861
Post Number: 685
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 7:15 pm: |
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sounds good DALE , ups says mine will be here MONDAY hope it works out well |
Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1225
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 8:16 pm: |
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only thing i didnt like is on the wilson mount
theres a small 1 or so inch gap.im afraid of water or snow getting in there.if ya scroll
up 2 lons post youll see it.was very windy
here tonite made it diffucult to mount antenna
didnt wanna screw down straight.more tests tommorow [hopefully]
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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1861
Advanced Member
Username: 1861
Post Number: 686
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 10:52 am: |
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thanks for the heads up DALE , I don,t want to think somethings wrong when I mount it . wonder if the mag mount sold here fits it right |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 14550
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 2:00 pm: |
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You can always add clear silicone or Coax Seal to the base of it which I also do with all mag mount screw on antennas come winter time or add a 1-3/4" x 1/8" washer like I just did in and then add sealant.
There was only 1/8 inch gap in between my Z-180 and the Wilson Mag Mount.
So far since April 13th when I mounted it, there have been no problems with SWR changing or any type of corrosion between the Wilson Mag Mount and Z-180 and it has never worked loose.
Or you can use the Z-180 MAG MOUNT also which Copper has.
Hope this help's,
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1230
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 8:10 pm: |
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thanks lon ill have to try it.yea was outside
tonite testing and i didnt measure the gap
but theres was one.i assume its 1/8 inch like
lons.heres my findings
distance 10-15 miles
radio=grantxl/stock
wilson=0-1 s-units
z-180=2-3 s-units
recieve
saw same increase
neither antenna had a high enough floor noise
level to move my needle.however the wilson did
appear to bring in slightly more noise.all in all
i did see a increase over the wilson wasnt much
but it was there.did my test on ssb.as most around here run all ssb.very happy with my z-180
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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1861
Advanced Member
Username: 1861
Post Number: 687
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 3:58 pm: |
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Well I got mine , found a black rubber washer just the right size , little thick but when tightend down should not only fill gap but help keep water out . I installed it as it came and got flat swr , something I could never accomplish with W 1000 |
Wolverine
Advanced Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 671
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 4:40 am: |
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1861, I just got my Z-180 today at 5:00 PM, PST. I'm going to install it tommorrow on my Wilson 5000 mount. The problem is, before the ant came, I called home depot, Lowes, Orchard, and Ace hardware for that washer that tech 808 was using to close the 1/8" gap, they all said that the rubber washer I was asking for was too big, and they didn't have it in stock. I've even tried plumbing places to find the washer. 1861.... tech 808, where did you buy your washer??, and I was assumming that you meant a rubber washer or grommet, and not a metal washer.
Wolverine. |
Wolverine
Advanced Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 672
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 5:02 am: |
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I'm putting out an all points bulletin for this washer, so if you guys can recommend a store, it would be greatly appreciated, besides, the Z-180 mag looks like a big slab of metal (More scratches on my roof) while the 5000 mag is smaller, sleeker, and still has the same magnetic strength to secure the antenna, THX.
Wolverine. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 14571
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 6:42 am: |
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Wolverine,
Go to your local Home Depot, Lowes, Menard's, Tractor Supply or any hardware store and they should have the metal washers.
Or you can cut a washer out of any rubber material like an old floor mat or mud flap.
And you can mount it UNDER or on TOP of the stock wilson mag mount washer that came with your antenna.
Remember when it comes to radio or antenna installation ALWAYS THINK OUTSIDE of the normal installation process for that custom look.
And with the TILT feature of the Z-180 NO MORE removing the Mag mount thus preventing any scratches.
Just fold it down when needed for clearence.
Hope this help's,
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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1861
Advanced Member
Username: 1861
Post Number: 689
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 9:24 am: |
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I just got lucky and found a perfect fit rubber washer - this was after about 30 min. with a dremmel tool trying to make a metal one fit . sometimes you just get lucky like that . I really like this antenna , if it just holds up and skip will come back |
Wolverine
Advanced Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 673
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 2:53 am: |
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Okayyy, testing the Z-180 I got the same results as Dale, only the distance was 20 to 23 miles, using a Uniden PC 78 LTW, I was in the valley talking to a well known base station. 1 and 1/2 to 2 and 1/2 db increase over the wilson on xmit, but what really impressed me was the noise floor, lower white noise levels on all channels, It almost sounded like I was receiving on a side band radio. Going back and forth over the San Francisco Bay Bridge (with all that steel), I talked to stations who always heard me xmitting, that I never knew existed, so I made a few more friends (Local contacts). This was at the height of rush hour traffic 5:10 PM PST. I think the plastic anti static tip on top of the Z-180 really makes a difference, as compared to the bareback ball less, tip less wilson ant. The Z-180 is rated at 2000 watts PEP which is plenty for my needs. All in all, I really like this Z-180, and after years of using and looking at the wilson 5000 fat coil, I just have to get used to looking at the unobtrusive skinny coil of the Z-180.
Wolverine. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 14584
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 8:28 am: |
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The main thing I LOVE about this antenna is that right out of the box and installing it on a Mag Mount I can switch from the 11 meter band to the 10 meter band to the 12 meter band and NEVER have to trim/cut/adjust the stinger to operate on all of them.
This is a MAJOR + when working the Sunday CEF Radio Club 10/11/12 Meter Net's from the mobile without having to fiddle with a mobile antenna tuner in line and tuning for each band.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Wolverine
Advanced Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 674
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 4:58 am: |
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I'm still enjoying my Z-180, but man... skip is so dead out here, what's up with the sunspots??. My consolation, is that if the 102" ss whip is the ideal length, than the Z-180's length of 77 1/2" puts me closer than my Anttron A-1700 (72"), and my Wilson 5000 (62").See what happens when there is no skip??....I'm looking for light at the end of the tunnel, and still rambling.
Wolverine. |
Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1260
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 9:32 am: |
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im still enjoing mine.i talked to my locals
the other day about 40 miles away on ssb with a grant xl.
with the wilson 20-30 mile range was about it. last weekend i was mobile and talked to a guy in MD on 13am so cant complain here
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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00worldchamp
New member
Username: 00worldchamp
Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 1:11 pm: |
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I'm about to setup an antenna on our Caravan and this Z-180 looks to be the best thing available for me from 10 through 12 meters.
Has anyone cut the dreaded hole and hard mounted one yet? How many db's would it be worth in your best guess? I have always heard it's worth doing with the Wilson's and about anything else do to the better gounding, but is this antenna designed to only be magnet mounted?
Thanks for the input. |
Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1263
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 11:53 pm: |
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no it can be hard mounted.ive seen they have a trunk mount and a mirrior mount
i wouldnt drill the hole.the mininum gain isnt
worth destoying your vehicle.i did it once with a wilson ona farm truck.the difference was only minumin if any swrs still werent any better
PERIOD.not worth destroying your everyday driver
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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00worldchamp
New member
Username: 00worldchamp
Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 10:37 am: |
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Thanks for the input Dale. I figured it would be more than a negligible gain from everything I have been able to read comparing the other better antennas with the option of magnet or solid mounting.
My thought was to solid mount it for better performance #1, theft deterrent #2 {should be at least a little less tempting for a thief, especially with a little lock-tight}, #3, I'm not worried about the re-sale, the van is a few years old and is pretty much my kick-around "enclosed truck" vehicle that will also see duty on all our longer distance trips. I will drive it until it drops.
I Whish I already had a magnet mount, it would be interesting to see if there is much of a difference with this particular antenna. I may try to find one if nobody chimes in that has tried it both ways. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 15256
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 12:34 pm: |
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00worldchamp,
Even if you drill a hole in your roof for the mount, all a thief would need to do is reach up and unscrew the Z-180 from the SO-239 mount if they wanted it.
As the Z-180 screws onto the SO-239 on the mount be it hard mounted, trunk or mag mounted.
Lon~Tech808
CEF#0808/HAM#001/CVC#0002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1264
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 2:03 pm: |
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lon is right about the theft part.
and i believe copper carrys the orignal
mount and coax for it.after yrs of being around the auto body stuff i just hate holes.much would
rather see scratches
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Mikefromms
Senior Member
Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 1014
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 8:50 pm: |
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Has the company improved the the small set screws yet? It is a fine antenna. It was a little long on top of my car.
Mikefromms |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 15290
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 9:52 pm: |
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After reading the 35 posts above I have not read or heard of anyone having any problems with the 2 stinger set screws on the Z-180.
So far I guess I have been lucky with both of the dual set screw's on the Z-180 antenna stinger tightened with a 1/16" allen wrench since May of 2007 I have never personally had a problem with them coming loose.
Lon~Tech808
CEF#0808/HAM#001/CVC#0002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1279
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 9:13 pm: |
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i never adjusted the set screws on mine.
didnt need to.had a 1.1 swr on entire 11m band
talk about an antenna thats just mount it and forget it the z-180 is exactly it
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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1861
Advanced Member
Username: 1861
Post Number: 713
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 10:28 pm: |
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same here DALE , just put it on , checked swr -- flat |
00worldchamp
New member
Username: 00worldchamp
Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 2:28 pm: |
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Mine is on the way. I ordered both a magnet mount and a solid mount. I figured I definitely wanted to try it both ways to see if there was a little difference from the better ground attenuation. I also figured the magnet will give me a chance to look at that monster sitting in the middle of my Caravan roof for a few days prior to putting it there on a permanent basis. I don't think I'll mind it. How large and what type of under roof bracing would be appropriate for an antenna this size when hard mounting on a vehicle that sometimes travels at a fairly rapid rate? While traveling in some parts of the country if your not doing ninety or so you stand the chance of getting ran over, and I tend to be in a hurry the rest of the time. I don’t know if a very large washer would be enough? Or I could use a one foot square sheet of fairly thick metal and form it to the roof? Any ideas within the next few days would be appreciated. I’ll report back when I get the chance to try out the antenna both ways. |
1861
Advanced Member
Username: 1861
Post Number: 714
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 5:22 pm: |
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use a skill saw blade under neath the roof |
Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1281
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 8:51 am: |
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shouldnt have much trouble hard mounting it.
this antenna is VERY light weight for its size
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Hawkeye
Junior Member
Username: Hawkeye
Post Number: 42
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 9:02 pm: |
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hello everyone, I just recieved my second S9 from Copper. and I wanted to try a different antenna. I have read the reviews on the Z180, it sounds like a good one. My problem with the Z180 is I can't get the little tilt ball on top tight enough to keep the stinger up right. Has anyone had this problem? With the stinger as tight as I can get it, it still tilts over about 1/4 and you can see there is a 1/8 inch or so gap between the ball bolt and the bottom contact point. Any suggestions would be appreciated, Thanks |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 15463
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 9:14 pm: |
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EASY FIX!
Put a nylon washer under the Antenna (between the Antenna and Mount) and rotate it 180% and then it will stay upright going into the wind and if need be you can fold it down to the front instead or the rear.
Lon~Tech808
CEF#0808/HAM#001/CVC#0002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Hawkeye
Junior Member
Username: Hawkeye
Post Number: 43
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 11:04 pm: |
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I have tried everything seems like the tilt will give me trobule i think i will stay with my wilson 5000 thanks for your help anyway lon. |
Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1321
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 5:34 am: |
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i had same problem i took a small cressive wrech
and carefully tightened it.and so far so good
i still dont have a washer either
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Mikefromms
Senior Member
Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 1115
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2012 - 7:59 pm: |
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Whatever happened to this great antenna? |
Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1829
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2012 - 8:57 pm: |
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sirio dont make thids one anymore .but they do
make many more.i.ll still have mine .i moved
since my last post in this topic and have many
hills or vallys to go thru on my way to work.
this antenna had many dropout issues i switched
to the astatic 3k and it was better in the vallys but was more narrow banded.then went to a monkey made 9 and it was only slightly better.
the astatic 3k surprised me.
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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