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Bullseye
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Username: Bullseye

Post Number: 319
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 8:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Setting up my mobile and am wondering something. I currently own a Magna Force 350 that does between 350-400 (on a Bird 73 I won't say whose) that a friend wants desperately. My question is how much bigger would I have to go to see a definitive gain in TX over the 350? I don't think anything under a Texas Star 1200 or similiar amp will show me much and I don't have that kind of money but I may be wrong and possibly a TS 500 or 667 will give me a noticable gain. Can anyone tell me if it would be worth upgrading or would I have to buy a much bigger amp to make a difference?
Bullseye/CEF#110/Mem. Since 1/18/2002
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1861
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Post Number: 663
Registered: 2-2004


Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 9:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would stick with the MF 350.
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Dale
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Post Number: 835
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well imho i think youd see more watts with the texas star 500 and667 but what kinda radio would you be hooking up to it?cause the 667 has a driver in the amp.id say probaly no more than 25-30watts pep.
the 500 will handle around 40-50 no driver.output between these 2 wouldnt notuice on the other end
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Wolverine
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Post Number: 667
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 4:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wattage jumps would be:
16 watts
64 watts
256 watts
1024 watts
4096 watts.

I would keep the Magna 350, and maybe purchase a custom made 5 pill amp (Not a texas star 667)that would put out 256-300 watts RMS, and peak at around 800- 900 watts. Any amp that peaks 400-500 watts would be enough to reach DX land consistantly (Unless you're on the superbowl 6 channel) That's my take.
Wolverine.
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Patzerozero
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Username: Patzerozero

Post Number: 3669
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 9:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

to stay with SSB biased magnaforce, you'd need to go mf600(4x2879) or mf900(2-2290 x 4-2879). that will double your output, & get you about another 1/2 S-unit of signal strength. you WILL need to upgrade power cables, & possibly EVERYTHING else, from antenna to coax to batteries to alternator. the mf900 works with a 4 watt radio, the 600 needs a driver or a radio with a few more watts.
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Bullseye
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Username: Bullseye

Post Number: 320
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 7:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Guys. I kinda figured that upgrading would be more trouble and expense than it was worth.By the way I'll be driving the Magna with my Magnum S-9 when I save up the money to get it ordered.
Bullseye/CEF#110/Mem. Since 1/18/2002
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Bootymonster
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Username: Bootymonster

Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you have to increase your power output by 4 for the person youre talking to,to see 1 extra s unit on their recieve meter from your transmission . so if you got 350 now you need 1400 to bump your signal up a hair and about 6000 watts to get 2 hairs .yea....... i didnt like learning that either .
a 5 or 6 pill is a waste of your money . once you get past a few hundred watts its time to go big or go home to make a real difference .and you dont need hundreds or even one hundred watts to talk skip . skip is achieved by atmospheric conditions.......not gobs of power .

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