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Streaky
Junior Member Username: Streaky
Post Number: 28 Registered: 3-2006
| Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 10:56 pm: |
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Has anyone ever used copper pipe instead of solid copper ground rods? Do you think it would work ? Streaky CEF #805 |
Coyote
Advanced Member Username: Coyote
Post Number: 882 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 8:51 am: |
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Never tried but I don't see why it wouldn't work. May be a bit harder getting into the ground unless it's pretty soft. |
Tech237
Moderator Username: Tech237
Post Number: 525 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 5:54 pm: |
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Actually you get more surface area form a copper pipe that from a copper rod. Work it out - you have the outside areas and then the area inside the pipe. However a 12" sq of flat plate works even better because you get better area. A 8ft pipe has less than 100" of surface are in contact with the ground but a 12 x 12 inch plate has over 288 square inches of surface. Another bonus is a flat plate is easier to add ground radials to than a pipe. |
Tech291
Moderator Username: Tech291
Post Number: 434 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 6:19 pm: |
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a 5/8" diameter,8' long copper-clad groundrod has 188.4 sq inches of surface area. .625(dia in inches)x3.14(pi)=1.9625(circumfrence)x96(lengh in inches)=188.4 sq inches........(I think that is correct) tech291 cef#291/cvc#6 kc8zpj |
Streaky
Junior Member Username: Streaky
Post Number: 30 Registered: 3-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 6:20 pm: |
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Tech237 would you have to bury the plates as deep as the ground rods can go? Streaky CEF #805 |
Tech237
Moderator Username: Tech237
Post Number: 527 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 9:00 am: |
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I have, in the past buried the plate at the point where the soil is moist so that would depend on your location. Tech291 true but you generally have a foot or more of the rod above ground which deducts from the surface area of the ground. Also the plate is good in areas where you cannot drive a rod due to near the surface rock formations. |
Streaky
Junior Member Username: Streaky
Post Number: 36 Registered: 3-2006
| Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 9:53 am: |
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Thanks for the info the plates may be the way to go as we are moving to an acreage and I really don't know what the soil composition is. Streaky CEF #805 |
1861
Advanced Member Username: 1861
Post Number: 561 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 12:45 pm: |
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Where would you get these plates ? |
Streaky
Junior Member Username: Streaky
Post Number: 37 Registered: 3-2006
| Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 6:57 pm: |
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1861 I found them in an industrial supply shop in the electrical section, But I think I will make my own. Streaky CEF #805 |