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Pyrwitner1
New member
Username: Pyrwitner1
Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 8:52 pm: | 
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I have a magnet mount antenna ,the probl;em is i am getting great swr 1.3 but when im talking on it it sounds garbled,my wife says it sounds like charlie browns teacher.Ive tried the antenna on different vehicles same thing.tried the radio on different antennas and it works great (now this antenna is for the wifes brand new car no holes allowed) even with high swr.Yes it has a good groundother then that im stumped. |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1633
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 9:58 pm: |
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Have you tried another antenna on the magnet
mount base?
Magnet Mounts in my opinion do not ground
well enough on SOME vehicles.
Is your radio and any other equipment
used in-line grounded good? Is the coax connections to the Magnet mount base ok?
Connector on end of coax ok? |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1813
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 10:30 pm: |
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ummm, this problem has nothing to do with the antenna.
this problem is either in the radio or the microphone.
most likely in the radio.
we need to know what kind of radio it is so that we can figure out whats going on.
include details that you dont think are important.
radio history, what kind of mic, etc...
most likely, the radio is set on either USB (upper sideband) or LSB (lower sideband) and should be on AM.
there will be a mode switch on the front of the radio to select the right mode.
both the transmitting and the receiving radio need to be in AM mode.
read the manual that came with the radio to better understand what LSB and USB are all about.
also, how do you get a "good ground" with a magnet mount antenna.
there is only one way that antenna is grounded, and that is capacitively through the magnet.
remember, details will help alot,
good luck,
matt |
Rldrake
Intermediate Member
Username: Rldrake
Post Number: 169
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 10:16 am: |
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Maybe the feedline is has an open from being pinched by the door jam. |
Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1448
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 1:50 pm: |
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So you tried a different antenna on the radio and it worked great. Problem is the antenna. Inspect the feedline and connector. Possible that the shield solder connection has come loose inside the coil housing. What make is the antenna? Is it old? Is it less than 40 inches? Pitch it and get a good antenna that is at least 40 inches long. The only mag mount antenna I would consider is the Wilsons and not the Little Willy. |
Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 2997
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 2:35 pm: |
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KV & dale are aimed in the right direction, checking AM/SSB 1st. antenna & mag mount is not the issue.
as for good ground with mag mount....appearance of ground & performance of mag mount through capacitive coupling is debatable, as is AM use vs SSB use for 'ability to get out'. then again, my mag mounted antenna performs as good as any hard mounted antenna, & I get out on AM to boot! of course when CEF313 was calling on LSB this afternoon & i was on AM, he DID sound like charlie brown's teacher  , til i turned the mode switch  |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1638
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 4:24 pm: |
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How can it be the radio if the radio works
great with other antennas?
I personally can not run a magnet mount on
my car at all, garbles and squeals. |
Pyrwitner1
New member
Username: Pyrwitner1
Post Number: 2
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 7:36 pm: |
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Gentlemen i thank you all for you input and will look into these ,as for the dangerous mount i have never had one fly off while at legal highway speed. Also as for the hole topic this is my wifes car she bought it and she is paying for it not me ,so whatever she wants on her car she gets.Now my truck on the other hand has a properly mounts 102 inch whip on it and it works just fine. There is nothing wrong with the radio or the mic as i have tried a number of diferent radios on it and no it wasnt on sb.i have tried this antenna on my truck as well with the coax ran out the sliding window and sitting right on the wheel well of the truck so the coax was straight and not pichedbut i will check the soldersand make sure there isnt any cold ones.As for the wilson i was thinking about it the lil will is all we need for her radio a little cobra 19 ultra III. |
Pyrwitner1
New member
Username: Pyrwitner1
Post Number: 3
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 7:48 pm: |
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Well guys she fixed the problem when she came home she went and bought a wilson 1000 and it fixed the problem . |
Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 3001
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 8:26 pm: |
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must i be doing something wrong? my mag mount gets out on AM just fine. 2 miles, 40 miles, heck, i was talking to the keydown guys at lighthouse point in CT from 65 miles away this morning. 65 to 90 miles is done regularly-daily if there's no DX. sinker/CEF634 is about 1200 miles from me & CEF808 in ILL probably 800 or 900, i seem to make those contacts...whenever there's DX in those directions. i'll put my mag mounted antenna up against the same antenna hard mounted while i'm AM & the other's SSB....wait, i've done that before . you're welcome to listen to my mobile 'outhear' base antennas. even outtalk 'em. keep the mode selector on 'AM', it reduces the heterodynes & whistles from trying to listen on SSB. |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1819
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 10:49 pm: |
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yeah, im sure the person buying that car wants a big honkin' CB antenna mount stuck to it permenantly. heck, there are plenty of people who actually use a CB radio that dont want that.
and who would want to look at a plastic plug on their roof?
i sure would rather use a buffing wheel for a few minutes than have to see the $$$$'s in the eyes of the dealer when they see that there is a hole in the roof; plugged or not.
definition of nonsense-Words or signs having no intelligible meaning: a message that was nonsense until decoded.
Subject matter, behavior, or language that is foolish or absurd.
Extravagant foolishness or frivolity: a clown's exuberant nonsense.
Matter of little or no importance or usefulness: a chatty letter full of gossip and nonsense.
Insolent talk or behavior; impudence: wouldn't take any nonsense from the children.
i do not think anyones opinions in this thread qualify the use of that term.
anyway,
the reason i believe it to be the radio is because of the charlie brown referrence which we all know along with donald duck to be a newbie response to the sound of an off tuned SSB signal.
you guys are trusting that he had the radio in the right mode during all the tests and various antennas.
if he didnt know what this switch was for, there is a good chance that it was not in the same position for all the tests, and may have only been in SSB pos. for the test in the wifes car.
also, if this radio has had the clarifier unlocked, it may be turned so far off freq. that even AM could sound like this.
im just hoping that if it was that the radio was in the wrong mode, that he'll have the sense of humor to post here about what happened, rather than just fixing it and leaving us guessing.
later,
matt |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1641
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 10:57 pm: |
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Magnet mounts work good on some vehicles.
Glad to hear she solved the problem!
I love a happy ending... |
Pyrwitner1
New member
Username: Pyrwitner1
Post Number: 4
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 3:58 am: |
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Its not a side band radio its an am only a cobra 19III, also ive benn using one form or another of 2 way comunication since 86 i know thats only twenty years for most of you vetrans of the radio but i do know the difference between side band and am . |
Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1449
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 12:40 pm: |
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Good deal Pyrwiter1. Thw Wilson 1000 is perfect for a little Cobra 19! The reason I'm against the Little Wil is because a stock radio such as a 19 needs all the antenna it can get for the best performance. 73
I got your back Pat!
Just to add my 2 cents in here...In Indiana I have contacted Pats magnet mount mobile many many times. Thats close to 1000 miles maybe. Half the time I recieve him at S-9 AM. Even Better on SSB! The past couple of contacts Pat was 20 over S-9 at times and never below S-3 and that was while driving! He hears me and I hear him no trouble no problem completely 10-8. Undoubtedly one of the top mobile DXers in NewYork from what I have heard and there is a lot of DXers in the Big Apple! So his QSL card is correct stating #1, CEF491
Oh yeah! I like to think I'm #1 mobile DXer in Indiana myself! Or at least I can hang with the best of them! Man someone deflate my big head for me! |
Therealporkchop
Advanced Member
Username: Therealporkchop
Post Number: 816
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:00 am: |
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Not sure what type of mag mount you were using, but maybe it was the mount itself where the antenna screws into it. Sometimes those things go bad, like the ones found on those mirror mount brackets. It ends up grounding the center conductor to ground.
I personally would rather run a roof mounted antenna or mirror mount antenna over a mag mount. But what do I have and what have I run for years...survey says...Mag Mount. The top #1 answer on the board. The trucks I've driven have all had fiberglass doors, so that's why if you're wondering.
Now in my experience and even though I've read in big red nasty fonts to NOT ground a mag mount antenna...I've done it with great results. I've used a good heavy gauge wire and ran it straight to the chassis. I had a slue of issues and grounding it didn't fix the problem. What did was using really good coax and getting away from the Brand X junk. I skipped town on Wilson and their 1000 & 5000 mag mount antennas. They are nice, there is nothing wrong with them, but they were not built for me or meant for me to be happy with one. What did make me happy was a Predator 10K and a triple mag mount and about 15 feet of LMR400 UltraFlex whipped the issues I had into the ground. HAHA...no pun intended.
However what antenna works good for Joe Blow won't necessarily work for you. Trial and error are the best ways to figure out which antenna works best for YOU. I've never had any of my Wilsons blow over and pierce anybody even at 90+ mph in my dump truck. And at 90+ mph the thought of a mag mount becoming a projectile wasn't a thought I had. I was thinking more along the lines of a tire blowing out...blown tire+loaded truck=dead little white boy.
Most likely the problem was with the coax even though it may have looked fine. Could have had water in it. The mount it terminated into could have been the problem. And depending on the actual type of antenna connected to it, it could have been a short in the antenna itself.
Glad it got worked out and "solved"!!
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 10343
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:02 am: |
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Pyrwitner1,
Glad to hear that you have solved your problem and Good Luck. 
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9CEF
CVC#2 |
Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 500
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 8:52 am: |
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glad 2 hear ya solved problem .but just out of curiousty were did ya mount the lil wil and were did ya mount the 1000.did ya try different locations?? |
Pyrwitner1
New member
Username: Pyrwitner1
Post Number: 5
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 3:25 pm: |
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no i didnt have the lil will and the 1000 is in the same spot as the other antenna on the trunk lid. |
Pyrwitner1
New member
Username: Pyrwitner1
Post Number: 6
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 5:17 pm: |
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Well gentlemen just for giggles i took the suspect antenna apartand found the root of the problem. were the connector is attached to the magnet there was a loose connection i added a washer abd put it back to gether and it works fine now .go figureand does even register on the swr meter now that i got it tuned the right way. |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1652
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 2:41 pm: |
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Good deal! I can't even get one to work on my car. Someday i'll have to try and
figure out why. |
Pyrwitner1
New member
Username: Pyrwitner1
Post Number: 7
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 8:27 pm: |
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oooops i meant it doesnt register |
