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Jameslarson
Intermediate Member Username: Jameslarson
Post Number: 115 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 4:03 pm: |
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Hi. It is the Workman #BS1HAM Ham Dipole 12' RG58AU Coax and PL-259 on Each End Freq Range 20M, 17M, 15M, 12M, 11M, 10M, 2M, 220, 440, and came with no instructions. How do i mount this or put it together? It will be in the attic. Each wire seems to be 36 feet. Thanks.
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Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9971 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 5:28 pm: |
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Here is a Picture of the: Workman BS1HAM Ham Dipole Antenna: Jameslarsen is talking about. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9971 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 5:36 pm: |
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Jameslarson, The Workman BS-1 Dipole Antenna is 32 Feet Long "Tip-to-Tip" and this would mean that this Dipole is a : = Full Wave Length (1 WL ) at 29.3 MHz = Half Wave Length (1/2 WL) at 14.6 MHz = Quarter Wave Length (1/4 WL) at 7.3 MHz = Eighth Wave Length (1/8 WL) at 3.7 MHz As a Dipole it should be mounted at about 16 Feet above ground, but could be rigged as little as 8 Feet above ground. WHY USE IT : For those with limited space or restrictions this may be the 'small' Antenna for your Shortwave Listening (SWL) Needs. There Reasons - Its 'complete' 'small' and 'low cost'. HOW TO RIG IT: Some Ideas on Rigging the Workman BS-1 Dipole Antenna using the 'short' 12 Foot of Coax Cable. "IF" your Radio Shack has a Window them Hang the Workman BS-1 Dipole Antenna outside the Window : * "UP" Under the Eaves of the House as a [Hidden] Shortwave Listener's (SWL) Antenna. * "From" the Eaves to near the Ground as a 'small' "Tilted" or 'Sloper' Dipole Antenna. * "From" the Eaves with the Center near the Ground as a 'small' "V" Dipole Antenna. * "From" the Eaves by the Center with the Ends near the Ground as a 'small' Inverted "V" Dipole Antenna. "IF" you do not have a Window in your Radio Shack or can not have an OutSide Antenna then Drill a Hole through the Ceiling of the radio Shack and put the Workman BS-1 Dipole Antenna In-the-Attic. Use any of the above Dipole Antenna Rigging Schemes that meet your circumstances and individual needs. TIP - For Multi-Story Apartment Build Dwellers - Hang the Workman BS-1 Dipole Antenna outside a Window and along side the building as a Vertical Dipole Antenna. MAKING THE WORKMAN BS-1 DIPOLE ANTENNA INTO A MIN-WINDOM : Fold one of the Wire Arms of this Workman BS-1 Dipole Antenna over so that the "Arm" is Nine Foot (9') Long making the total length of the Antenna 25 Feet Long and converting it to an improved WINDOM Antenna. Note - Don't Cut the Wire simply fold it over and back along itself; and use a Plastic Wire Tie about every foot to hold the two wires together -or- Make a 3.75" Diameter Coil with the Extra Wire about Eight Turns and use Plastic Wire Ties in 5-6 Places to hold the Coil together. The Coil can just hang their on the end. MINI-WINDOM SIZE AND WAVE LENGTH {FREQUENCY} : If the Workman BS-1 is configured as a "Mini-Windom" Antenna it would be a : = Tip-o-Tip (25') Half Wave Length (1/2 WL) at 18.7 MHz = Tip-o-Tip (25') Quarter Wave Length (1/4 WL) 9.4 MHz = Tip-o-Tip (25') Eight Wave Length (1/8 WL) 4.7 MHz = Long Arm (16') Quarter Wave Length (1/4 WL) 14.6 MHz = Long Arm (16') Eight Wave Length (1/8 WL) 7.3 MHz = Short Arm (9') Quarter Wave Length (1/4 WL) 26.0 MHz = Short Arm (9') Eight Wave Length (1/8 WL) 13.0 MHz The Workman BS-1 Dipole Antenna is Complete and Ready to Install ! Hope this helps, Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Jameslarson
Intermediate Member Username: Jameslarson
Post Number: 117 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 1:09 pm: |
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Hi. Thanks for the info. I still don't understand how to actually "install" this. Do the wires intersect? Is there a drawing or a picture of how it should look? I do have an attic. What do I do with each wire? How do i use it for CB (11 meter) Thanks. |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1577 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 2:52 am: |
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james, this antenna is meant for receiving. you cannont transmit on this antenna without an antenna tuner (not a match box) and then who knows what the power handling would be. this is a shortwave antenna intended for listening to freqs. from 1-30mhz. it is not a CB antenna. to install it, stretch the wires out away from eachother horizontally so that when the coax hangs down from the connector, it looks like a "T" with a really long top! the coax should be brought down at a righ angle from the horizontal part for at least 8 feet or so. in your attic would be good, but from tree to tree would be better. should be up 20 feet or so above ground. i understand what you are trying to do, and here is a thread or two that might help you: http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/discus4/show.cgi?tpc=34&post=124840#POST124840 http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/discus4/show.cgi?tpc=34&post=91190#POST91190 i like the half square antenna, but its not very good for local comms. good luck, matt |
Rldrake
Intermediate Member Username: Rldrake
Post Number: 132 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:31 pm: |
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468/Frequency in Mhz = Length in feet. Example: To cut dipole for CB channel 20 (27.205 Megahertz) 468 divided by 27.205 equals 17.2 feet. So cut each leg of the dipole to 8.6 feet...or about 103 inches to be in the middle of the "CB" . Same formula applies to all other bands. Drawing for u Insulator Leg CenterInsulator Leg Insulator *----------------*------------------* ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Feedline down ! at least 1/4 wavelength ! ! THE BROWSER WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO DRAW THIS CORRECTLY. The "feedline down" would be from the center insulator that your feedline attaches to. As others stated, you will have much better results if you get the antenna mounted outside, in the clear...and as high as possible. Also, you may have better results if you mount it as an inverted-V...especially if the stations you talk to are not also running a horizontally polarized antenna such as a conventional dipole or yagi. If they are really close to you, it won't matter much. If you are planning to use it for a receiving antenna only...you will probably get the best results by cutting it now shorter than necessary to fit into the space that you have avaiable. Also keep in mind...if you cut it for a particular band and have it mounted about a 1/4 wavelength or higher above the ground, it will be directional...strong signals broadside, nulls towards the ends. |
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