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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9968
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 7:52 am: | 
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Copper Forum Member's,
After reading the Copper Text Chat and several post's here in the Copper Forum, I figured the information below would be of help to those of you who are interested in becoming a Licensed Ham Operator.
Below are 2 easy step's to follow in getting your FIRST Ham license. 
After you have your Technician Class License you can also use QRZ to take the General Class and Extra Class Practice test's to upgrade if you choose to.
To get started on getting your Technician Class License follow the 2 Easy Step's / Links below.
#1 ~ To take QRZ's Practice Amateur Radio Exams for your Technician Class written exam CLICK HERE!
These Practice Test's will prepare you for the questions that will appear on your written exam.
All of the Practice Question's and Answer's are letter for letter / word for word as they will appear on your exam.
Then when you are Passing the Practice Test's and are ready to take your Exam go to STEP #2 below.
#2 ~ To find a location near you to take your written exam using the ARRL Exam Session Search
CLICK HERE!
NOTE!
If you follow the 2 Easy steps above
YOU WILL PASS YOUR TEST AND YOU WILL HAVE YOUR LICENSE!
Hope this help's,
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
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Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 336
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 8:39 am: |
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Lon,
You forgot one thing you could have added to this.
Ask any of us hams that are close to you and the odds are we will Elmer you and help you reach that licence. |
Moderator136
Moderator
Username: Moderator136
Post Number: 240
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 9:40 pm: |
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Yes anyone that needs help on questions and answer's that live close to me i will help all i can.
But better yet you can ask questions on the Copper Voice chat and get good answers . On how to get your Amateur radio license.
All us Techs and Moderators will help Elmer all that needs help , Thats why we try to help with questions on the forum.
We try are best to help and to give the right answers, And if we doint know the Question we do are best to find out !!!!
So give us i try! Iv been involved in CB since 1960's and short wave (SWL) and Amateur radio.
I injoy helping all that i can , Thats why im here and volunteer to help all the New members and all the old ones.
I would like to add iv learned a whole bunch myself since iv been a member of COPPER And im still learning things every day.
Thanks to all the everyday Posters you have helped me alot more ways than you think,I learned alot from a great bunch of Girls and Guys that has helped me. I Thank You!
Moderator 136
CEF 136
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Jameslarson
Intermediate Member
Username: Jameslarson
Post Number: 199
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 2:05 pm: |
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Interesting. I may go for my technician class. It says it is 35 questions. Does that mean that I would have to get all 35 questions correct? If not, is it like high school where a 70 perecent is good? Thanks.
O yeah, Why is a SSN required on the form? I am very concerned with giving this number out with all the ID theft going around. Especially when this has nothing to do with taxes. Is it a requirement, or can I simply leave that space blank? Thanks. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 10274
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 3:08 pm: |
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Jameslarson,
REMEMBER the TECHNICIAN CLASS Question pool will CHANGE JULY 1, 2006
And YES 70% will allow you to Pass your Written Exam.
The FCC Requires your SSN for it's records and to verify that you are who you say you are.
To take QRZ's Practice Amateur Radio Exams for your Technician Class written exam CLICK HERE!
Then when you are READY to take your TEST to find a location near you to take your written exam using the ARRL Exam Session Search
CLICK HERE!
Hope this help's,
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9CEF
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Jameslarson
Intermediate Member
Username: Jameslarson
Post Number: 200
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 3:13 pm: |
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OK. Thanks for the info. Here's a question actually my friend just brought up to me. What if a person does not have a SSN? Surely there's other ways to verify who you are (Drivers license, bills, auto records, etc..). After all, not all people have a SSN, just like not all people have a phone number. Heck, I'm even thinking about dumping my phone and turning in my SSN. Heck, it's not like Social security will be there when I need it, and there's always email. Thanks. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 10275
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 3:28 pm: |
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Jameslarson,
Use the LINK I posted in my post above and find a test location near you and then contact them and they will tell you EXACTLY what form's of ID you will need to bring to take your test, and you will need to supply photo copies of them to take your test.
The VE's at the test location who will give you your test will be able to answer ALL of your Question's for you.
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9CEF
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Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 2971
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 3:43 pm: |
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it IS a federal LAW that EVERYBODY has a SSN by a certain age, prior to your legal guardians' 1st income tax filing date, or something like that. that goes for abandoned babies taken in by state, or whatever gov't as well. you need 1 to work legally as well. the fcc will not give you a license without an SSN because it is 1 of those agencies that can refuse a new license or renewal based on leins due to child support, etc.
just knowing what you know right now from messing around with CB, 50% correct should be right there, & another 10 questions correct would be from 'retraining' yourself from 'what you think you know' to 'what is really right'. go for it. it's pretty easy....i took mine at huntington town hall, also have frequent tests in lindenhurst. go to www.arrl.org for locations & dates. |
Jameslarson
Intermediate Member
Username: Jameslarson
Post Number: 201
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 4:09 pm: |
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There is no law at all that requires any individual to have a SSN. It is only required if you want to legally work, or if someone wants to claim you as a dependent. Age has nothing to do with it. I could be 65 and I am still not required to have a SSN unless of course someone wants to claim me as a dependent, or to legally work. If for some reason I am born into a rich family, I could literally live my whole life with out a SSN. Sorry if this is a bit off topic. Thanks. |
Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 373
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 5:36 pm: |
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James, aCTUALLY YES THEIR IS. i WAS ABLE TO GET MY LICENC EHERE (WAS ORIGINALLY LICENCE IN aUSTRALIA) WHILE STILL WAITING TO BE AN OFFICIAL rESIDENT aLIEN. i WAS TOLD BY fcc TO ENTER ALL 9S IN THE ssn FILED BUT i DID HAVE TO SHOW THAT i WAS WAITING FOR ins TO APPROVE MY APPLICATION. |
Jameslarson
Intermediate Member
Username: Jameslarson
Post Number: 202
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:19 pm: |
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Hi Tech 237. So when you say "actually there is", you mean "yes there is a way to get it without having to provide a SSN, provided that you can show that you have applied for a SSN". Thanks. |
Hyperno_1979
Member
Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 73
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 5:34 pm: |
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Simon,
I have been fiddling around with the QRZ practise questions as i am seriously considering doing the Foundation licence here. Are these questions relatively pertinent to VK as well or do we do a different type of testing? Also do you know of any site in Aus that is similar to the QRZ site? I have had a look at the WIA website and found zilch. Any help much appreciated.
Bob CEF 703 |
Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 382
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 8:08 pm: |
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Hyperno,
The basic questions would be the same but theory would be a bit different. If you use the ones for here as a guide you should not go to far wrong.
Dave VK2RD (near Wangi) may have an idea of a VK website that would help you. |
Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 383
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 8:09 pm: |
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Thats right James and I seem to think they may even accept a local D/L too. At the time I was still driving on my Australian one. |
Rldrake
Intermediate Member
Username: Rldrake
Post Number: 174
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:34 am: |
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I think you got that backwards...the theory parts would be the same anywhere in the world.
But questions covering the law, license class structure, frequency allocations, allowable power, etc. would be different.
Also, it is very likely that Australia doesn't use the multiple guess question format and probably doesn't make the actual question pool available to just memorize, rather than to actually know most, or some, of the material/basics.
Some countries even require a "classroom course" prior to testing/licensing.
Bob's best bet is to seek out a few amateur radio operators, or find a good club, in his country to get the low down on it all.
If he can't find any hams in his town/area (unlikely)...he could probably just locate an amateur radio dealer/supplier that can steer him to a beginner's book or to a organization similar as America's ARRL or Great Britain's RSGB.
As far as the orinal question about getting a amateur radio license without providing a SS number...
I think it very unlikely that he will get a license without providing the number. As for the security/id theft concern...he shouldn't worry about it. The FCC will more than likely keep it more secure than his bank, credit card provider, insurance company, employer, and the many others that already have it. |
Hyperno_1979
Member
Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 74
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 2:32 am: |
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Simon,
Sorry to bug you but i found this. Thought you might be interested.
http://westlakesarc.org.au/foundation_files/frame.htm
Bob, CEF 703 |
Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 503
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 9:27 am: |
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boy i took the practice exams on qrz and got only about a 55%or so.there were alot of questions i had no idea what they were talking about,and ive been in cbs for about 15yrs.1 question wish i would have wrote down see if i can write this right.what reigon is guam in?or something very similar to that.why is guam important and why would i have to know what region thier in?and techiancal questions got me
they had a diagram of what looked like a inside of a transmitter i dont work on radios nor do i have any idea what all that stuff does inside.any ideas here i would love to become a ham but only been ablt to pass the practice exams a few times 3 i believe |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 10347
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 9:56 am: |
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Dale,
If you are taking the Practice Test's on QRZ at the LINK Below it will give you the CORRECT answer to any Question if you miss it.
ALL of the CORRECT Answer's are right there for you to read.
QRZ's Practice Amateur Radio Exams CLICK HERE!
Take 2 Practice test's in the Morning and 2 Practice test's Every Night and you should be able to pass the test in under 2 weeks.
The QRZ Practice Tests use the complete and current official VEC approved question pools and answers. Each test taken is composed of a unique combination of questions that are selected at random in accordance with the official guidelines set forth for each element and each subelement.
Hope this help's,
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9CEF
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Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3940
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 11:14 am: |
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Dale my wife did as lon said and got only 3 wrong on the test after 2 months of study. |
Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 386
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 5:53 pm: |
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Drake you're right I meant to say Regulations. |
Hyperno_1979
Member
Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 75
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 5:56 pm: |
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Yeah,
With all that technical jargon i don't know if it's worth me doing. All i want to do is flap the bottom jaw, not interested in how it works as long as it does. Maybe i'm not cut out to be a "HAM" after all.
Bob CEF 703 |
Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 387
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 5:56 pm: |
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Drake,
Actually Australia does use multi-guess format and the pool is available from the right places. I even think Dick Smiths used to sell the book.
Australia went to multi-guess in the 70s about 2 years after I did mine using the old 1/4 page per question written exam.
Hyperno - all i can get is a black square with a white and yellow border., which is a shame since I used to belong to Westlakes for many years. |
Yankee
Senior Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 1240
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 8:15 pm: |
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I clicked on the posted Australian amateur radio site and it locked down my computer, to the point that I had to shut down and reboot.
Carl CEF-357/KD5SDM |
Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 506
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:15 pm: |
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yea lon i know they do give answers but i usually miss enough ti fail.like i said its the techanical stuff.one thing im getting better at is freq. allocations.i usually take 3 a day
1 morning
2afternoon
3evening/night |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1830
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 12:17 am: |
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well, i decided to try and take the tech. test without doing any studying.
i passed!
not by much.
test took 23 minutes (im working)
i got 27 out of 35 correct.
got a 77.1%
the tech stuff was fine, its the regs. i need to relearn.
now to try the general test!
matt |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1831
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 12:33 am: |
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hey, i just passed general!
test took 12 minutes.
i BARELY passed!
there was a lot of guessing going on.
chances are if i took it again i would fail.
i got 25 out of 35
with a 71.4%
whew!
guess im gonna try the extra test just for kicks.
i am NOT predicting a favorable outcome.
matt |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1832
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 12:58 am: |
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tee hee,
this one im not so proud to post.
took the extra exam for fun.
took 22 min.
got 20 out of 50 correct.
lots of guessing.
40%
guess im almost half way there!
matt |
Yankee
Senior Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 1241
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 7:59 am: |
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Hi Matt,
Was great talking with you Sunday last. I want to wish you the best of luck on getting your ticket back. After I turned the beam your way your audio was solid and very crisp.
It's 26 correct on both the technician and general exams,
I studied hard, sometimes testing up to 6-7 times a day when I was getting ready to test, only missing 2 questions on both technician in April and general written in May of 2002, although after all the study work of getting ready for general, sorry to say I didn't get the code.
About 2 weeks ago, I started hacking at the general again on QRZ.com, passing but not quite at the percentage I want to be at, so I'll be sure I'll again pass the general written.
Carl KD5SDM |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1833
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 5:22 pm: |
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thanks carl, im gonna keep taking them too, until i feel that ive run through the whole pool of questions.
good luck to you on your general.
matt |
Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 511
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 7:28 pm: |
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congrats kid im gonna keep attemping the tech |
Hyperno_1979
Member
Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 76
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 6:04 am: |
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Carl & Simon,
Sorry about the link to Westlakes ARC on the Foundation Licencing scheme here in Aus. Sometimes the website plays up on me too. Lesson learned....i will NEVER post another link in case it does some damage.
I offer my humblest apologies.
Bob CEF 703. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 10359
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 8:22 am: |
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Hyperno_1979.
I clicked on your Link when I approved your post to check it out as we are required to do before approving link's and had no problewm.
Just clicked on it again to check it and no problem's and it opened in a separate window both times and shows:
Australian Amateur Operator’s Certificate of Proficiency Foundation Licence Training
It opens to Slide #1 of 113.
Hope this help's,
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9CEF
CVC#2
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Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 390
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 12:35 pm: |
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I tried from work and that may have something to do with it as I am using Firefox and going thru a pretty mean firewall too.
I'll try it from home tonight and see what happens. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 15683
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:58 pm: |
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Just bringing this TOPIC back to the TOP for our Newer Copper Forum Members.
Lon~Tech808
CEF#0808/HAM#001/CVC#0002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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