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Crackshot
Intermediate Member Username: Crackshot
Post Number: 134 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 10:23 am: |
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how much power can a maco 3 element handle? |
Marconi
Advanced Member Username: Marconi
Post Number: 557 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 5:16 pm: |
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I think Maco has a 5000 watt rated gamma available on request. It will probably do pretty near that if the match is real good and rock solid. Oops, there goes the neighborhood. |
Crackshot
Intermediate Member Username: Crackshot
Post Number: 136 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 1:03 pm: |
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probably 250 watts swinging 300 is what I run low power. Rarely use high power |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1199 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 4:57 pm: |
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Using 100 watts and going to 200 watts will roughly gain you 1/2 S-unit. Then, it would take 400 watts to gain another 1/2 S-unit. I use a 50 watt DK, so, a 200 watt DK would gain me roughly 1 S-unit or so. This is off the top of my head, so, i could be wrong. The stock 103 can take 1500 watts. Larger gammas can be bought though if needed. |
Marconi
Advanced Member Username: Marconi
Post Number: 560 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 6:44 pm: |
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Well if you plan on dumping that much into one of those f-glass jobbers then plan on getting you a all metal suit to wear. You are going to need it. Maybe an Iron lung and a hair restoration job while your at it. Why would any body need 5000 or more, or for that matter, a whole lot less just to talk on a blumin' CB radio? Good as a Driver! I'm impressed. |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9088 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 7:43 pm: |
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Maco does make the 5KW Gamma Matches which I have on the M-103C-HV 3 and I would guess they will take the FULL 5KW as a fellow Ham Club member came by with his amp and tuner and we tested the Maco M-103C-HV 3 here with 4500 watts going to the 5KW Gamma matches on it and NO PROBLEMS. And I just cannot picture it going poof by adding another 500 watts but I guess it could happen. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |
Crackshot
Intermediate Member Username: Crackshot
Post Number: 137 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 10:48 am: |
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Do these antenna work better vertical or horizontal? |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1205 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 11:10 am: |
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If your talk alot of local talking then mount it verticle. If you do more DX talking mount it Horz. It's also nice to have a omni antenna also since beams transmit and recieve well only in the direction they are pointed. |
Crackshot
Intermediate Member Username: Crackshot
Post Number: 144 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 3:47 pm: |
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Ok. Ordered antenna, rotor and telescopic mast. I need coax, guy wire and rotor wire. Should have most of my components next week. Wish me luck! |
Vanillagorilla
Intermediate Member Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 454 Registered: 4-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 10:17 am: |
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OK..glad to see this thread. Thinking of the same antenna BUT do NOT want to take down the Antron99. I will be constructing a tower around 40ft and would like to have some input on using the same tower for BOTH antennas....possible? Would it distort the pattern of either or both too much? Was going to do the 3 element on the flat side and put it below the 99. Ideas? Comments? Thanks, Hank |
Dx431
Senior Member Username: Dx431
Post Number: 1144 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 10:55 am: |
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Vanillagorilla, install the 3 element flat ontop of the tower and then install the A99 right ABOVE the boom of the beam. The beam will act as a ground plane for the A99. I used this type of setup for yrs and it work well. |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1219 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 1:49 pm: |
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Yep, exactly what DX 431 said, should work good for you... |
Vanillagorilla
Intermediate Member Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 456 Registered: 4-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 2:57 pm: |
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I knew someone must have tried it! THANKS! Anyone have pics? Just curious...
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Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1220 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 6:00 pm: |
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No pics here as i didn't have a digital camera at those times in the past. Maybe DX 431 or someone else has one. |
Dx431
Senior Member Username: Dx431
Post Number: 1145 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 1:30 pm: |
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I do have some pix,I'll dig them up and post them later today.
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Dx431
Senior Member Username: Dx431
Post Number: 1146 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 6:16 pm: |
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My memory must be going. I Have a pic on the forum already. Look in the Member's Picutres section of the forum. Scroll to the bottom till you see DX431. It's not a very good pic, but you'll get the idea.
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Crackshot
Intermediate Member Username: Crackshot
Post Number: 154 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 8:04 am: |
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Dx431, I really like that idea. Can I do that if I mount my rotator on top of mast without a bearing? Its a pretty good rotator cast body and steel gears. |
Mrclean
Junior Member Username: Mrclean
Post Number: 31 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 9:36 am: |
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Man that will be alot of stress on a push up mast. May work if you guy the heck out of it. I have a small groundplane on one and would not want nothing any bigger up there. Are you hooking it to the house? |
Crackshot
Intermediate Member Username: Crackshot
Post Number: 156 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 10:11 am: |
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I will be attaching it to the side of my shed. Will be bolted to shed 7 feet up and guy wired every 10 feet and the guy ring at bottom of rotor. |
Crackshot
Intermediate Member Username: Crackshot
Post Number: 157 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 10:13 am: |
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BTW - I was just worried about the stress on the pivot pointon rotator. |
Crackshot
Intermediate Member Username: Crackshot
Post Number: 158 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 8:59 pm: |
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so will this maco work on 10 and 11 meter? |
Rldrake
Member Username: Rldrake
Post Number: 65 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 4:40 am: |
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The "maco" will "work" on any band. It will work best on whatever band(s) it was designed for. |
Tech291
Moderator Username: Tech291
Post Number: 369 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 7:54 pm: |
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Crackshot, one of the ideas behind the Maco m-103hv was to set up the horizontal elements for 10 meter and set up the vertical elements for 11 meter or vice versa. TECH291 CEF#291 KC8ZPJ |