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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8530
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 11:53 pm: | 
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JCD-201M
DESK TOP
COMPRESSOR MICROPHONE
Microphone Sensitivity:
Electronic Cone Tensor Microphone Employment
Amplification:
Controlled by Switch or Manual Control Knob:
HIGH ~ 45dB
LOW ~ 35dB
MANUAL
Dual Microphone Connectors Output:
8 Pin Standard Microphone Plug (female), TYPE "CBC"
Controlled by Switch:
This allows you to have "2" Jumpers from the Microphone to be Connected to "2" Seperate Radios at the same time via Output "A" and Output "B" with an Output OFF Control Switch.
VU Meter w/ Battery Indicator
1-1/2" H x 2" W
CONTROL SWITCHES
OUT SELE ~ OUT A. / OUT B. / OUT-OFF.
COMP ~ (HIGH. / LOW. / MANUAL)
MODE ~ SSB. / FM. / B-CHECK
MANUAL LEVEL (Control Knob) MIN ~ MAX
BUTTONS
PTT / UP / DOWN / LOCK
Output Voltage:
Amplification: 0.3mv (Lapse),
Variable Amplicification: 0-70mv(Lapse)
Output Resistance:
500 W ~ 100k W
Batteries Required:
3 ~ AAA
or
DC 4.5V ~ 9V Supplied from the Radio
Lon
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8530
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 12:02 am: |
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Delivery is expected by:
Mid-February
2006
Lon
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Goat373
Member
Username: Goat373
Post Number: 84
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 12:04 am: |
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sweet...how do you think it would sound on my ft-100d???
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Moonraker
Intermediate Member
Username: Moonraker
Post Number: 104
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 1:00 am: |
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I hope it sounds as good as it looks.
Moderators Note!
IT DOES 
Lon
Tech808 |
Starface
Intermediate Member
Username: Starface
Post Number: 344
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 1:30 am: |
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Cool beans! just need a price now.
Till next time
Starface CEF#476
Southeast Net Control
Auburndale,FL |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8534
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 8:20 am: |
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Goat373,
Well I would guess it would work GREAT with the FT100D.
So far it has been Tested on the following Radios with great results.
MOBILE RADIOS:
Magnum S-45 (Omega Force)
S-3
S-6
S-9
Mini Mag
257
Voyage VR9000
Uniden PC-78
Ranger 2970DX
President Lincoln
Ranger 5054DX 100 (6 Meter)
YAESU FT-2800M (2 Meter)
BASE RADIOS:
Ranger 2995DX
Ranger 696F SSB Base
Galaxy Saturn Turbo
MAGNUM S-3200B
Icom 746Pro HF/6M/2M
Kenwood TS870S
Lon
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1861
Intermediate Member
Username: 1861
Post Number: 401
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 8:30 am: |
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JUST IN TIME FOR VALENTINES DAY ! YIPPEE!! |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1006
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 9:02 am: |
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Valentines Day is my birthday..he he he
JIM/PA/CEF 375 |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8538
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 9:05 am: |
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It sure will make you a GREAT BIRTHDAY PRESENT!
Lon
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Wildrat
Intermediate Member
Username: Wildrat
Post Number: 405
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 9:46 am: |
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Lets see it has 8 buttons/knobs/rheo, at 15 bucks a button plus a meter as well at 25 bucks plus two outputs thats another 30 bucks that makes it 175 bucks.Taking into consideration mass production my rough assessment of the mic should put it in the 99.99 - 135 buck price range. Whistle dixie if I'm close.
Wildrat
CEF674
You can always shoot me! |
Sonny
Member
Username: Sonny
Post Number: 78
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 1:11 pm: |
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Lon,
I want one for my Alinco / Stoner pro 40
when they come in hope they will wire up to both
p.s have to get a 54 high reach again wind shear over thanksgiving sent my 4 element mast on my tower over about 10 deg. used 1 1/2 aluminum. Should haved used a length of Stainless Steel 1 1/2 I have. Oh well tried to keep weight down.
73s |
Kid_vicious
Advanced Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 915
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 9:09 pm: |
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i think its safe to assume that it is supposed to read, "electret condensor microphone element"
since that is the industry standard now, and since there is no such thing as a "cone tensor" microphone.
matt |
Sinker
Intermediate Member
Username: Sinker
Post Number: 285
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 10:08 pm: |
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Not what I had envisioned it looking like at all. But as the old saying goes it ain't the looks that matter but how it works. I like that I can have it hooked to both the TR 696-F SSB Base and the Galaxy Saturn Turbo at the same time.
I saw someone post about an M and an S version - what are the differences?
Is there a Price yet?
Tim
CEF-634 |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8550
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 10:41 pm: |
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Sinker,
The JCD-201M is a Larger Size than the JCD-201S and offers MORE Options / Features / Controls.
No Price has been set yet by the Forummaster for the JCD-201M DESK TOP COMPRESSION MICROPHONE yet as he will not have the final cost for the microphones, jumpers, accessories and shipping from the plant to Copper Electronics until they actually arrive.
When the Forummaster gives me more information such as Price and when they are in Stock and ready to be shipped to customers I will gladly post it for the Copper Forum Members.
Lon
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Duck246
Intermediate Member
Username: Duck246
Post Number: 107
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 6:09 am: |
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Could you watergate this mic versus other mics 808? |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8553
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 7:39 am: |
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Donald,
Well here are the Mics that I and a couple of others who helped tested it against for the last 6+ weeks.
The JCD-201M was tested by BOTH Transmitting and Receiving from it from other radios.
I also tested it in Mobile use as well as Base Use on the Mobile radios I listed.
Actually I thought it looked Pretty COOOOOOL sitting on the dash of the 1st Sargants truck. 
The YAESU MD-200A8X was the ONLY Mic that received better Audio Reports, (BUT! at $400.00 bucks for it I would expect it too.)
Other than the Yaesu we all received better audio / clarity reports on AM and SSB when using the JCD-201M including 6 weeks of use on the CEF Nets when I would switch without telling anyone.
The mics it was tested against:
Astatic
D-104 Silver Eagle
1104C
D-104 w/TUG8 Stand
Turner +3 & Road King
Sadelta Echomaster
Silver Salute
Super StarDM-452
ICOM SM-20
Kenwood MC-60A
YAESU MD-200A8X
Very nice mic but NO WAY I WILL SPEND 400 bucks for one.
And we also tested it against the Factory / Stock Mics on all radios.
Lon
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Sinker
Intermediate Member
Username: Sinker
Post Number: 286
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 9:14 am: |
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YAESU MD-200A8X = $400.00 HOLY COW that is more expensive than anything in radios I have except for the KLV-1000, in-fact other than switch boxes etc. I think I spent less on my base station than anything else.
It really will be nice to have just one mic for the two radios - I am looking forward to the rest of the info coming out.
Now as for:
No Price has been set yet by the Forummaster for the JCD-201M DESK TOP COMPRESSION MICROPHONE yet as he will not have the final cost for the microphones, jumpers, accessories and shipping from the plant to Copper Electronics until they actually arrive.
Who in the heck is running that department not having a solid price locked in place. Man, that's like going to Vegas and gambling hoping lady luck is on your side. Was no market and price research done? I understand not wanting to divulge the price yet but to actually not know - WOW...
No offense here but everyplace I worked would have fired me for doing such a thing.
Tim
CEF-634 |
Boxcar
Intermediate Member
Username: Boxcar
Post Number: 355
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 9:27 am: |
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Hey Lon,
I have a question for you. Is that astatic 1104c desktop mic supposed to be an amplified mic? Reason is I received one from our local gas company they used for their radio's and it doesn't have a 9 volt battery inside. It appears to have the little compartment where it's supposed to go but no battery inside. I wonder if someone removed this part of it so it is a non ampified mic now. I do want to know if you know how to hook this back up or where to run the wiring to so if it is an amplified mic, I can get it working again.
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8556
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 9:45 am: |
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Sinker,
No offense taken, but I personally have never dealt directly with or asked a manufacturer to re-design a product to specific instructions and make changes and then try and figure shipping rates on items which I would have no idea what the actual final cost of the item will actually be UNTIL they are produced and what the actual weight of everything that is ordered and the mode of shipping and actual rates from one country to another country.
Since I have had no personal experience in such dealings with manufacturers such as ordering, shipping and having products made / manufactured to certain specifications and paying for them and the associated costs involved I will gladly leave all of those headaches for the Forummaster to handle. 
As I have posted many, many times now when the Forummaster has more information to release I am sure he will including the price.
And please remember I nor any of the other Copper Techs or Moderators work for Copper Electronics as we all DONATE our time to help when and where we can on the Copper Forum.
Lon
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Vanillagorilla
Intermediate Member
Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 354
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 9:50 am: |
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Well I heard it and loved it. Sounded to me like those guys I hear out there using Yaesu's and Kenwoods....but I'm an AM idiot what do I know?
Surprised you didn't hear it on the Net Hollowpoint? Thought Lon had been using it a while now?
Hank |
Gage
Intermediate Member
Username: Gage
Post Number: 197
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 11:04 am: |
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I will ordering the JCD-201M mic when Coppers gets them in stock. I have read about this mic a month ago and can not wait to get one!
Gage CEF-114 |
Airplane1
Advanced Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 648
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 4:36 pm: |
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hey Lon, how well did the JCD-201M mic work on your 696f base? Did you like it alot and was it as good or better then DM452?
Just asking cause I have a 696fd1 mobile as a base and get very good reports on the sound with DM452.
I want a base mic and almost bought a echo master desk mic but just might get this if price is right. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8573
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 5:01 pm: |
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Airplane1,
It worked GREAT!
Personally the 1st Sargant and I would both say it performed BETTER then the DM-452 and BETTER than any other Microphone we have used on AM and SSB use with the Texas Star 696F SSB Base
Lon
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Shirley
1st Sargant
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Airplane1
Advanced Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 649
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 5:18 pm: |
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Thanks Lon,
Sounds great, I bought the DM452 because you recomended it and I am happy with it so I will trust your word again.
Cant wait for price. |
Saddletramp025
Intermediate Member
Username: Saddletramp025
Post Number: 132
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 6:51 pm: |
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All I can say is I was one of the ones that Lon pulled the Mic switcheroo on. I instantly asked him what he had done or what radio he changed to. The difference was incredible. I've always been a big fan of Turner+3's but this new mic is definately going to be used here as soon as it's available. In a nutshell: Awesome Audio! |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8577
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 10:10 pm: |
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Copper Forum Members,
The Forummaster has just posted the  JCD-201M DESK TOP COMPRESSOR MICROPHONE OWNER / OPERATOR MANUAL
You will find the JCD-210M OWNER / OPERATOR MANUAL located in the Area of the Copper Forum titled:
Subscriber (Preview)
» Manuals and Service Documents
» JCD-201M Manual
CHECK IT OUT.
Lon
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Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1033
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 10:52 pm: |
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I suppose if it works well on the Texas
Ranger 696f base, it should also work well
on the RCI 2995dx base./ The specifications
say to me it should work good./
JIM/PA/CEF 375 |
Thehobo
Junior Member
Username: Thehobo
Post Number: 34
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 7:26 am: |
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ok, on this mike, you say different jumpers are used for each different radios?? then could a person buy, say 3 or 4 different jumpers to fit different radios?? like a 4 pin cobra, 6 pin rci, and maybe an 8 pin yazoo?? if this is how they set the mike up, mite be interested.. thanks
thehobo
274150 am
monitor ch. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8580
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 7:42 am: |
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Thehobo,
YES, you are correct.
There will be 5 Basic Jumpers to fit the following radios.
#1 ~ Cobra / Uniden / Magnum / Ranger ~ Standard 4-PIN
#2 ~ Cobra / Uniden ~ Standard 5 PIN
#3 ~ RCI / Ranger ~ Standard 6 PIN
#4 ~ President (Lincoln) / Uniden (HR2510) ~ 5 PIN
#5 ~ Magnum International ~ Standard 6 PIN
And there will also be an Option to have a Jumper made with a standard mic plug for the Icom / Kenwood / Yaesu Radios also.
And maybe a Jumper with the modular plugs for Ham Equipment.
Hope this helps,
Lon
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Wolverine
Advanced Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 565
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 8:37 am: |
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Tech 808, are there any jumpers for a 5 pin din mike available?? I have a Radio Shack TRC-431 Base station that I would just love to try this mike on. Also, when you say "Jumpers", I'm assuming that you mean something like amplifier-look alike jumpers (Patch cords) terminating in mike connectors, instead of co-axial connectors, am I correct??
Wolverine. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8583
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 8:45 am: |
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Wolverine,
Yes, the Copper Tech will be able to make a Jumper with a 5 pin DIN Plug on it for you.
The Jumpers will be Microphone Cords that will connect the Microphone to your Radio / Radios as there are 2 Connections / Outputs on the Mic for Microphone Cords.
Lon
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Crackshot
Member
Username: Crackshot
Post Number: 91
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 8:38 am: |
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So whats the big dealabout "compression" mic?
Is it supposed to make you sound nice and clear or like david hasselhoff or something?
Sound to me the word "compression" is a marketing gimmick like the word "turbo" was in the 80's |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8584
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 8:52 am: |
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Crackshot,
Just look to the left of the Forum here and you will see:
Utilities
Search
Contact
User List
Users Online
Edit Profile
Just CLICK on Search and type Compressiom Microphones in the Search Box and start reading and learning about Compression Microphones.
You will soon learn what a Compression Microphone is and that they are not just a "gimmick".
Hope this helps,
Lon
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Kid_vicious
Advanced Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 939
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 8:19 pm: |
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audio compression is not a gimmick.
there is not one TV show that you watch or CD that you listen to that does not employ some form of compression.
it is a tried and true technique of increasing the average output by suppressing (compressing) the peaks.
im working on a little AF clipping circuit that would wire right inside a radio, and if it works well, i'll make more till i get sick of it. who knows where they'll end up.
matt |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member
Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 824
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 11:34 am: |
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Wow, this mic sounds like the new be all do all. I think I'll add one to my arsenal and have it wired for my Omega Force S-45 and Kenwood 850.
One question: will this mic pick up background noise like the old Turners?
Mikefromms |
Wally38
Member
Username: Wally38
Post Number: 68
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 2:34 pm: |
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So when is this mic going to be available?
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 8873
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 4:10 pm: |
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Wallly38,
SCROLL down in this topic area until you see the POST TITLED:
Does the Compression Desk Mic Come Out This Month
It is all covered there for you.
Lon
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Capt_hook
Intermediate Member
Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 280
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 9:36 pm: |
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question ???what do I do to order a jumper for this mic to a washington 5 pin I would ask on voice chat but everybody is sleeping. |
Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1144
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 1:28 pm: |
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Hook, I would just call Copper and order one to your needs. Ask for Suzanne cause she seems to be the most helpful and knowledgable. At least in my experiences from ordering stuff. Tell her you need a JCD 201M mic cord wired to a 5 pin Washington!73 |
Capt_hook
Intermediate Member
Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 281
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 4:36 am: |
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Thank you I thougt it would be that easy .this mic really does the trick really.don't know what people think about it but I know what they say WOW ! |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1424
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 4:12 pm: |
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I ordered the JCD-201M mic on
Monday morning and it arrived this morning
(Friday).
After talking and adjusting for awhile on AM.
It sounds great with the compression on low
and mode switch on SSB. Would not work correctly with mode switch on FM for AM with my RCI
2995DX base. It sounds better than my
modified Silver Salute and my DM-452 mics.
The channel selector on the mic moves channels
up and down. And there is no feedback/talkback what-so-ever. I can sit the mic close to the radio. I can talk close or far away from mic
with no problems. There you have it...
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Pogo12
Member
Username: Pogo12
Post Number: 96
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 2:00 pm: |
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I use the the JDC mike with my rci2995dx.I set the compression at medium,mode switch set to fm/am and the mike cracked open just enough to give modulation.I then turn the mike gain on the radio all the way up.I found when the compressor is set to high it picks up too much background noise and at low not enough modulation. |
Pogo12
Member
Username: Pogo12
Post Number: 97
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 2:09 pm: |
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I said the post on JDC201M WRONG.I WAS THINKING OF ANOTHER MIKE.I set the compressor switch to manual and just crack open the mike enough to give modulation.I then set the mike gain on the radio all the way open.The rci2995dx just dosent seem to need the compressor with this mike.On mine it just picks up too much background noise.I still set the mode switch to am/fm tho.Sorry about the post before. |
