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Freebird
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Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 9:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What do you think are the best and worst mobile antennas and why?I think the best one is the good ole 102" steel whip i can hear real far on this antenna and i get really good swr's with it 1.1.The worst mobile antenna i would have to say is the fire stick i have had 7 of them and i never get an swr lower than 2.5 what a junk of an antenna.
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Therealporkchop
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right this minute I think the worst antenna I have ever seen is the Wilson 5000 Mag Mount. Ask Pat about mine, it's possessed by the devil or something.

For right now the way I have my antenna set up, I'd say the best is the Wilson trucker series.

But of course there are far better antennas out there than this, but I can only speak of what I have owned.
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Wildrat
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didn't we just do this last week?
I still like Wilson's, and why is because they work for me.

Wildrat
CEF674
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Outkast
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 1:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As for best 102" and Predator 10K love them both. As for the ones I dont like, any loaded whip, never had good luck with whips at all I have used my fair share of Francis whips and those were ok. But seems to me anything with wire around the outside has not worked for me at all.

Outkast

CEF 650
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Coyote
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 2:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wildrat,

Yup.. we sure did....

but since we are back on it again. I agree with Freebird.

SS 102" = best bang for the bucks
Firestick = aint worth the match to set it on fire.

CEF-443
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Big_l
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 7:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's a Predator 10K world!
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Outkast
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 9:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doesnt seem to be any new opinions on this one either, same three main answers so far, 10k 102" and Wilsons.

Outkast

CEF 650
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Hatchet
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 9:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed with Big I, Its a 10K world
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Jon666
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Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

roadmaster z180
i love this antenns
out performs my wilson 100
hands down
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Static_killer77
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 9:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Radio Shack $29.95 12" tall mag mount with the little spring at the bottom! Got a 1.8 on mine, handles box stock 19 Plus (don't cut limmiter now!!)and on a really good day, shoots skip all the way across the street!!! But when I'm mudduckin, I'll run that 27" 10K. But it only talks from Jacksonville Fl, to St. Mary's Ga on 4 pills durring primetime. Junk!! LOL Jason
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Kj7gs
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Best antenna is the one that gets me on the air!

Worst antenna - super-short clamp-on cheap-o
"with built in signal amplifier!" - meaning the coil in the middle converting the remaining RF into heat. You've probably seen 'em in the discount stores.
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Wolverine
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Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 4:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Best everyday antenna- Wilson 5000. Best antenna to handle power, and has the best ears, is the Predator 10k.
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Hotwire
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 2:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kj7gs,

The built in signal amplifier! I was at wally world the first time I saw one of those and I agree what a joke! Terrible antenna indeed but the worst antenna fellas? Any cb antenna you glue onto your window on the outside and connect the coax with glue on the inside. Ya know about them" The Through Glass Antenna" Biggest waste of money ever and even worse when those who have them postion them pointing back to that big antenna get no wind drag. LMAO

The best antenna is the 102 inch antenna followed by top loaded antennas followed by center loaded followed by base loaded antennas. I have never used a base loaded mobile antenna nor a center loaded. If the length is an issue and you need to go way shorter than 102 inch your best bet is the top loaded antennas. The Wilson Slver Load is my choice. SWR is low and I have used them for years with many DX contacts. Now I know there are good antennas like the Predator. What does it prey on? Your wallet! For the money you can't beat the SilverLoad.My honest opinion!
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 4:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i think you've heard my predator 10k once or twice, 'wire....
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Hotwire
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 5:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sure have double zero!!! They are really nice antennas and 1 is on my to bribe... I mean my buy list!
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Wildrat
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 6:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like my MonkeyMade. It has good ears, transmits fine, handles power well, and above all it did not cost me a dime.

Wildrat
CEF674
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Hotwire
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 9:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let me guess.......the alien rats got it for you?
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Rldrake
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Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 3:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The "worst antenna"? No antenna at all.
The "best antenna". No such thing.
There is no such thing as a best antenna.
It all depends what you are wanting it to do, on what frequency? Local? Dx?
Who are you going to talk to?
Where are they at?
What polarity are they running?
What are you most concerned with, antenna effecientcy or just a low SWR? (SWR, no such thing as swr's).
Best SWR will be obtained with a dummy load, but useful radiation is usually a few feet rather than many miles.
At the beginning of this topic, there is a picture of a 102" whip, nicely mounted to the suv...a pretty efficient antenna for 27Mhz. A shorter, loaded antenna properly mounted (no mag mount or clamp on mount) in the center of the roof would be more effecient. The same 102" whip mounted properly in center of the roof would beat either, hands down, but would look like hell and be banging into all sorts of things. Now any of these 3 installations would work well for mobile DXing, when the band is open...and would work very well for working local traffic as long as the locals were all vertically polarized. But if there was a local that you wanted to work, say just 10 miles away...and he was running a dipole or a horizontal loop, yagi,etc...the 20db loss between polarities would make the contact very, very difficult. In such case a moble loop type of antenna would be the solution. This post is to just illustrate that there is no such thing as a "best" antenna. If there was such a thing EVERYBODY would just use one of those. ALL antennas have their pros and cons. ALL are compromises. As individuals all we can do is experiment and use what works best for our personal needs. Man has been experimenting with antennas for well over a hundred years and will continue to as long as he uses any form of RF to radiate any type of signal. There are many, many books written about antenna fundamentals and theories...and many, many more to be written. I will end this post now, before I write another book right here. 73 and everybody have a great 2006. :-)
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Al_lafon
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Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 7:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello i run a 102 here back cornner of a small car. But also like to run a 102 up on the roof
Well i use a 4 Way Mag Mount Hay but don't try this on back raoads makes for a lot of banging
over head.
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Chad
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Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 9:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Worst: Thru glass for 27MHz Almost as bad as none, you will have better results shouting out the window :-)

Best: Whatever fits under the garage door, does not interfere with the operation and safety of the vehicle, and can perform well in the intended bandwidth.

Chad
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Kid_vicious
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Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

worst antenna:

a seven foot long wet spaghetti noodle.

best antenna: a short piece of Andrew's double heliax connected between your radio and the other radio's antenna input.

thank you, thank you,
you are all too kind!
matt
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Bruce
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Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Worst: Thru glass for 27MHz Almost as bad as none, you will have better results shouting out the window"

O MY YES even on 2 meters they are USELESS.
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Chad
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Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 3:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce, I learned the hard way :-) Sure seemed novel, If one actually worked I'd do it again!

Chad

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