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Therealporkchop
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Post Number: 431
Registered: 11-2002


Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've always been told RMS is where your talk power comes from. If this is the case, then why is PEP so important or atleast to some?

My understanding is RMS is what it does 'most' of the time or average. And PEP only happens for a very very short amount of time, so short that a PEP reading meter has to have a circuit in it to amplify that signal to show it on the meter.

Either way, which is more important and why?
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Wolverine
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Post Number: 539
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 4:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Swing (PEP), makes you loud and proud. Carrier (Rms) takes the ducks out. I'd rather have a good modulated carrier, instead of swing or pep readings that are probably being transmitted or bleeding on other channels, rather than the one you're talking on. That's why most prefer Bird meters, which measure true power/watts/rms, instead of Dosy pep meters that make you feel good by watching the needle movement swing to the far side of right. 200 watts- Bird (Carrier) is better than 200 watts pep/peal/Dosy meter. Keep it real, and invest in a good cheap RMS meter.
Wolverine.
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Therealporkchop
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Post Number: 434
Registered: 11-2002


Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I have a good cheap meter...and I don't trust it.

So my solution to that problem was a Coaxial Dynamics meter... yeah that's the ticket...
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Patzerozero
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Post Number: 1783
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 8:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

someone swinging 500 in RMS is gonna SMOKE someone swinging 500 PEP. therefore, RMS means REALLY MEAN SIGNAL
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Therealporkchop
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Post Number: 440
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Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 1:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, I figured that much. I know RMS is what really counts, but I think you'd have to have something to swing like that.

What does the average amp swing RMS, like a 2 pill and 4 pill and 6 pill?

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Patzerozero
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Post Number: 1791
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Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 4:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

customs as opposed to, say, texas star, 200, 400, 500. TS, maybe 1/2 or a bit more .
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Therealporkchop
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Post Number: 444
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Posted on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 9:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well Cheesy, this is our post.

And you aren't telling me anything about numbers...I'm a number person...
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Wolverine
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Post Number: 541
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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Real Mean Signal........yeah, that's the ticket.
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Patzerozero
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Post Number: 1809
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

those WERE the OUTPUT #'s, 2 pill, 4 pill, 6 pill, not the model #'s

not exact, but rough #'s.

now that i recheck, they ARE rough, my dave 5 can rms swing 650. pep....well lets say the 1kw scale ain't cuttin' it . but even RMS #'s can change depending on INPUT
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Wolverine
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Post Number: 543
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 4:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RMS/Dead key (Carrier) on those amps that Patzerozero mentioned will average between 70 watts and 125 watts. Swing or peak watts will give you an extra 80 to 300 watts.
Wolverine.

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