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Cornbrown
New member
Username: Cornbrown
Post Number: 6
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 8:55 am: | 
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I was told by the county that I had to take down my antenna because I did not have a permit for it... This Stinks because now I have to apply for the permit and relocate the antenna. By the looks of things I am not going to be able to put it up as high as I had it before and even lucky if they let me use that style antenna at all!!. I had to write a letter requesting a variance because Code says the antenna cannot be wider than 3 feet and my ground plane is 18 feet wide at the radials. My busybody neighbor complained to them that my antenna was too high and too close to his property line. To be honest the thought did cross my mind.. I guess I should have done my homework before I spent all that labor to put it up. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 7049
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 9:33 am: |
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Cornbrown,
Yes, we have had to get City Building / Zoning Permits for Every Tower and the Rohn Push Up Mast that we have put up / installed.
The County has different restrictions/rules than the city.
They inspect the site before we can put them up and tell us where we can place them and then return when we are finished and inspect them to make sure we followed the guidlines / rules stated in the Building Permit and THEN give us permission to use them if it passes their final inspection.
As a Licensed Ham they CAN determine where & how we place them but NOT how high or what type of antennas we put up as long as we were within the FCC Guidlines for Licensed Hams and Airport Guidlines.
HELPFUL TIP!
Take the 35 Question Written Tech Test and GET LICENSED!
Always Check your Local City and/or County Building / Zoneing Codes before doing anything, it saves time and headaches.
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
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Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 830
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 10:07 am: |
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Around my town we are allowed to put up
a tower without a permit as long as the
tower is not more than 38 ft high and is
attached securely to a structure: House,
building ect. It's not inspected at this
height. Now, if someone complains, they come
and inspect it to determine whether or not
it is safe.
JIM/CEF 375
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Dave1
Junior Member
Username: Dave1
Post Number: 34
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 10:50 am: |
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WOW you guys have it bad I live in Maine and the town I live in has less than 200 people we can do what we want as long as we are the land owner the next house from me is about 2 miles away lol
Dave  |
Cornbrown
New member
Username: Cornbrown
Post Number: 7
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 11:49 am: |
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Wow Two miles apart!!! I am jellous now. With that amount of space I could drop the maul all day long at the Base full power and not have to worry about anyone complaining. |
Dave1
Junior Member
Username: Dave1
Post Number: 35
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 12:52 pm: |
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I will tell you it is nice but real COLD in the winter |
Hotwire
Advanced Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 553
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 12:54 pm: |
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Cornbrown, Man that stinks! Neighbors should not act like that. One day your neighbor is really gonna need your help for something and is gonna wonder why you wont answer the knock at the door. |
Dave1
Junior Member
Username: Dave1
Post Number: 36
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 3:11 pm: |
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the day they come to your door tell them Sorry but I cant talk to you GO HOME and call me on THE CB RADIO 
Dave |
Coyote
Intermediate Member
Username: Coyote
Post Number: 440
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 4:17 pm: |
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I'm like Dave1, pretty much away from anyone that would care what I put on my 3 acres.
That does bite Cornbrown, you get it up and everything working good, only to have to pull it all down because of codes. Guess thats why I moved where I'm at. I figure if the guy next door can get away with fighting dogs and roosters, I shouldn't have to much problem putting up an antenna. |
Cornbrown
New member
Username: Cornbrown
Post Number: 9
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 7:57 am: |
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The good news is I spoke to ********* about my antenna problems...He says he will make me a beefed up 1/4 wave Star Duster style antenna if the county denies the permit for My Base Enforcer Antenna.... |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3113
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 8:09 am: |
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Intresting law ..............
Cornbread 3 foot wide? never seen that one how do they justify it? 99% of tower laws are safety laws and THAT dosn't sound like a safety problem to me.
Here in Tampabay the law is the standard 35 foor high and on a 2 inch or smaller pipe does NOT require a permit.
PRB-1 applys to HAMs only so you Don't have that law to protect you either as for your busybody neighbor I've got one too ..... He went to the county DEMANDING they tear down my antennas only to find they ARE leagal. This nut case beat on my door several times in the last month my 6 meter station eats up his 49 mhz phone ..... YES there are people still using them! |
Cornbrown
Junior Member
Username: Cornbrown
Post Number: 12
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 8:59 am: |
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The county claims that because the laws they have on the books for CB antennas are so vague as far as how high and so on. I would fall under their general wireless radio antenna laws... which are very restrictive if you want to put up a CB antenna. If I remember well I can not exceed 15' past the highest point on my house, and the antenna can only be 3'wide. I guess an Antron 99 would fit but I preffer the exellent performance of my .64 wave ground plane antenna with (4) 9' radials. |
Yankee
Advanced Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 892
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 9:29 am: |
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Cornbrown, this requirement sounds like a bummer to me. I'm very happy the county here doesn't have something along that line.
Bruce, doesn't your neighbor understand you are legal with your antennas, and has learned to live with it. I'm guessing you have done everything to keep your 6 meter station clean. A 49 MHz. phone yet. I thought they were a lost cause years ago. I'm thinking you even went and bought him a new phone, and he refused it or something along that line. |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3114
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 12:01 pm: |
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Yep got him a phone and he told me what i could do with it ......
Cornbread Too bad your not a HAM PRB-1 WOULD stop them from using a cell phone law ..... |
Cornbrown
Junior Member
Username: Cornbrown
Post Number: 13
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 12:21 pm: |
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"Cornbread Too bad your not a HAM PRB-1 WOULD stop them from using a cell phone law ....."
Hey Bruce,
I am studying as we type.... LOL |
Al_lafon
Member
Username: Al_lafon
Post Number: 86
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 1:27 pm: |
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Hello please take time to look up ham radio and
laws as back in the 80s the feds past a law that
keeps some of the more off the wall laws that county and states pass. HAM PRB-1 will also help
if you get a copy and send it with your request for variance . use a little white lie just don't
tell them your not a HAM ! |
Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 832
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 1:36 pm: |
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I re-checked our antenna laws. A 38ft tower
can be placed anywhere without a permit and
will not be inspected unless someone complains.
They use FCC height regulations. But, i never
heard of them inforcing height as many people
are over FCC heights regulations in this area.
It mostly goes by complaints. If nobody complains
they do not bother you. Any tower over 38ft you need approval and a permit. But, again they do not inforce unless a complaint. Good Luck on getting your ham ticket Cornbrown
JIM/CEF 375
Central PA |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3118
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 6:52 am: |
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Cornbrown
Do you think your building dept would have a fit over this?
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Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 205
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 8:45 am: |
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Bruce,
All he'd have to tell is that it isn't an antenna but a frame for a rotatable moonshade. |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3120
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 9:12 am: |
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Seminole's building dept has no sence of humor .....
That antenna is 48 stacked 17 elm beams |
Sinker
Member
Username: Sinker
Post Number: 73
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 10:30 am: |
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Where I live I can only go 35' up and if it is a tower then it needs a permit. I would really like a tower but guess the Top One on the tri-pod up on the rood and the Maco V-5000 on the Channel Master push up pole is just going to have to do until I move someday.
Cornbrown, wishing you luck and sending some good thoughts your way... |
Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 835
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 12:13 pm: |
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WOW! What an antenna!....LOL... Those elements
would overhang over our whole block...LOL
I'm sure that would bring the complaints...LOL |
Cornbrown
Junior Member
Username: Cornbrown
Post Number: 14
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 1:07 pm: |
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Sinker,
Thanks for the flowers. I am still waiting for a reply from them... On a side note i am averaging a 85% pass score on the technicans online practice test. You guys think I'm ready to sit??? |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 7117
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 1:15 pm: |
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YES! 
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN |
Cornbrown
Junior Member
Username: Cornbrown
Post Number: 15
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 1:22 pm: |
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Hey Bruce lol. If I were to put that thing up. I would most likely get mobbed by my neighbors, and get arrested by the county... |
Goat373
Junior Member
Username: Goat373
Post Number: 34
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 5:55 pm: |
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I also am going for my tech test corn, i go on the 21st to take it...wish me luck guys |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 7129
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 5:57 pm: |
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Goat373,
GOOD LUCK BRIAN YOU CAN DO IT!
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN |
Goat373
Junior Member
Username: Goat373
Post Number: 35
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 5:59 pm: |
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thanks much lon
cant wait, got my 2 meter station all set up...cant wait to use it finnaly |
Cornbrown
Junior Member
Username: Cornbrown
Post Number: 16
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 6:10 pm: |
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Good Luck Goat373!!! Let us know how it went... |
Snowfire
Intermediate Member
Username: Snowfire
Post Number: 141
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Friday, September 16, 2005 - 10:41 pm: |
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Darn I guess I'm one of the lucky one's with no code's to go by. I have my tower up now to 100' finaly after a few more guide wire's. No complaint's of any kind from any neighbors.
Cef 294
Snowfire |
Cornbrown
Junior Member
Username: Cornbrown
Post Number: 19
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 8:17 am: |
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well after doing the bop and weave with the County Permit and Zoning Office. I had to write several letters, send pictures of my house showing property line setback, pictures of my antenna, and where I plan to mount it on my house,and many quotes from the FCC's website reguarding their regulations for C.B Stations, my radio's serial number, and the radios FCC ID number for my radio. I am pleased to announce that the County has approved the permit for my antenna under the Ham guidelines. Man I am so happy. I am going to have it professionally installed. |
Karls357
Junior Member
Username: Karls357
Post Number: 16
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 10:09 pm: |
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and think that there are people that want more government watching us |
