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Dale
Intermediate Member Username: Dale
Post Number: 108 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 1:13 pm: |
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whats the output difference between these two?too my understanding the 95t has two 2sc2290 finals/transisters. and the 2970 has a built in amplyflier . whats the difference in output both rms and pep?does one have an advantage over the other?does that 6th digit cure/help the famous galaxy drift that the older models have?i thought the galaxy,rci radios had 2sc1969 finals in them? |
Iluvrf
Intermediate Member Username: Iluvrf
Post Number: 107 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 2:40 pm: |
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Same breed of radio. Both have built in amps. I like my 95t alot. It will talk over my locals 2970 anytime I want to. You will have drift with ANY export you use. Some are just less than others. My 95T has very minimal drift on ssb but I attribute that to a good alignment out of the box. My neighbors 2970 also has very minimal drift and sounds very good on SSB. Either way you cant go wrong but if I were buying again I would go Galaxy again |
Allagator
Advanced Member Username: Allagator
Post Number: 627 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 5:02 pm: |
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RCI ALL THE WAY !!!!! #1 !!!!! HERE IS A LINK TO CHECK OUT SOME OF THE SPEC'S ON THIS RADIO ! http://www.rangerusa.com HOPE THIS HELPS !!! ALLAGATOR |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 646 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 9:11 pm: |
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The needle meter would make my decision...95T. Mikefromms |
Dale
Intermediate Member Username: Dale
Post Number: 109 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 11:03 am: |
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thanks for everyones input here |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 912 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 6:48 pm: |
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! sorry! |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 647 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 10:52 am: |
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Didn't you mean to say S-999999999999999999999? mikefromms |
Bigbob
Senior Member Username: Bigbob
Post Number: 1971 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 8:26 pm: |
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No Mike,I think he meant S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9,hehe. |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 918 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 11:35 pm: |
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i do believe it was that big fan of galaxy's, mikefromms, who said his 95t sure can't hear like his magnum!that right there would make me pay $320 for an S9 rather then take a 95t for free! ok so i'd take the 95t but I'D SELL IT! & buy another S9. 150 watts is closer to driver then amp for my purposes. & while i CAN & WILL spend whatever it takes to get the S9 matched (& it does work just fine with my davemade) you are not going to do much about the poor receive of the galaxy. OTHER THEN BUY AN S9!!! you're right, iluvrf, the S9 is NOT in the same category as the 2970 & 95t. it's a couple steps UP! i could put my tristar 120 up against both radios & SMOKE 'EM both! if wattage is the only concern. davemade, dx1600, got plenty of ammo to take care of 150 watt radios!I WANNA HEAR! i can always add watts. now a dose of reality...i agree that some do not require what others do. & $$ comes into play often. that even goes for me. wanting badly to get on 6 meters after getting my ticket, i decided upon an icom ic706mkIIg. coming to the realization that it would be a while before i saved enough for 1, i got a great deal on a brand new unopened rci5054dx100. yeah, far from my 1st choice for a radio but... listened to 6 on an early 706 today. YIKES! i WANT a new 706 NOW! see mikefromms, i CAN & DO feel your pain! i could hear things on the 706 in a mobile with a 1/4 wave whip that had NO signal on my rci with an antenna up 35' higher then the mobile! that said, phooey on galaxy & rci. yes it's time S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9 |
Iluvrf
Intermediate Member Username: Iluvrf
Post Number: 114 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 2:59 pm: |
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Both my 95T and my S-9 have had a good alignment. You can NOT tell the difference in RX between the two radios. Infact both radios are better than .2uv You arent going to get any better than that with an export. |
Bc910
Advanced Member Username: Bc910
Post Number: 532 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 9:21 pm: |
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Comparing apples and oranges? Sure! That is exactly it. A BMW is a VERY fine car, along with bently, Mercedes, and the like none of which imports any trucks to the US. And Chevy, Ford and Doge make a fine truck! But as far as workmanship, care and technology the BMW, Mercedes, and Bently beat the american makers hands down! Now immagine that you could get a Bently made 1 ton crew cab truck made by them and to their standards, wouldn't that be great? Well the S9 is the Bently and the Galaxy is the Chevy, and to complete my annalogy, if you buy a 150 watt amp, BAMMMM now you have that Bently truck! did I make sense? I think so BC S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9 |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 928 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 11:48 pm: |
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I GET IT, BC! i CRUISE in my 'bentley', but do the DIRTY work in my 'chevy' truck! ok, my grant xl is a 'gmc', & my ic735 is a lifted 'gmc 4x4'. S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9
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Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 648 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 10:49 am: |
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Where do you guys go to worship on Sunday?--The church of S-9? Man, you guys have it bad. I think I will wait until the special higher powered model of the S-9 comes out next year before I purchase one. Opps...got to run hide..that guy that's trying to buy my Magnum 257 just drove up again.....bye.... mikefromms |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 932 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 6:39 pm: |
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there's a ham forum/website/review site that had a bunch of comparisons maybe 4 or 5 years ago of pseudo-10m rigs. they involved galaxy, rci, delta force & something else. the delta was the clear winner & the galaxy the clear loser. it took in the range of .2uv to move the meter on the delta & NEARLY 1(ONE!) uv on the galaxy in SSB. they also tested FM. they were all untouched from the box only. they did hammer the early delta for it's front end overload problem but said it was the only 1 of the bunch that was even remotely 'likeable', by amateur standards. don't remember exactly what 808 said the deal with HP S9 was, but i believe the next version was going to have the backlit knobs, & whatever the HP version would be, it would be 1 x 2290 or something? don't quote me on that, in case my memory failed. that however is just another 'problem' radio. too many people smoking their amps. a 2x 2290 type, such as the 95t would be a better option-it could drive 8 pills with no problem. actually, mike, i worship the DX gods. wherever & whatever it takes to 'get out'. my S9 is only my 3rd most used radio-but that's because my XL in the mobile is set 'just right' & my ic735 at the base hears even better then the S9 on SSB. my AR3500 100 watt with ALL the options cost $600 in 1988 or whenever it was. i still think it is the ALL TIME BEST cb ever made. the ONLY thing the S9 needs to rival the 3500 is a built in 100 watts! & i'd consider paying quite a ransom for it! but when things are DEAD SILENT & i'm working in the shack, i'll listen to the S9 because it's SO QUIET & IT HEARS EVERYTHING! THAT IS AS IMPRESSIVE AS ITS XMIT!!! |
Couchpotatoe
New member Username: Couchpotatoe
Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2005
| Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 8:01 pm: |
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WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO DESTROY A PERFECTLY GOOD RADIO BY OPENING IT UP AND TURNING THE KNOBS WHEN THEY ARE ADJUSTED AT THE FACTORY FOR THEY'RE NEAR PERFECT SETTINGS(MOD,HARMONICS,ETC)? YA'LL DO REALIZE THAT THE BEST SOUNDING RADIO HAS 1/3 THE WATTAGE IN IT'S MODULATION? I.E.(10 WATT DEAD KEY AND A SWING TO 15 WATTS, 2.5 WATTS IN EACH SIDEBAND OF MODULATION. |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 936 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 9:13 pm: |
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yeah, maybe, Iluvrf. they're the same out of the box too-they show which manufacturers put more 'love' into their product. my ar3500 was opened to be modded to 11-nothing else needed to be OR ever was touched, til it broke...the S9 was supposed to be like that too, but some didn't respond output-wise til they were opened. it's rcv is AWESOME out of the box. have NO clue what the receiver responds to, but, like i said, it's not that far from my ic735 on SSB & probably a bit better on AM due to less noise. it IS better then my XL & too close to call with the 3500. like couchpotatoe said, it $#@&$ to have to align a radio out of the box, & i just don't see them really being all that far off. but, don't argue the point 'cause i really don't know. i just know how they 'compare' to what i have available. and i KNOW most on this forum & most all around DO NOT take a brand new radio to be aligned. some just have to do it, but most don't.the actual design of the rcv section of galaxy IS different then that of the XL, & i suppose the S9 & 3500 too, & i believe AM is not that great at all. but, hey, i still will NOT buy a galaxy-stubborness if anybody wants to call it that, but i AM MORE THAN SATISFIED with the rcv & xmit of my 735, S9, 3500, & XL-the radios i use regularly. |
Hollowpoint445
Intermediate Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 392 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 9:28 pm: |
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Very few radios are aligned well from the factory. Doing a full alignment generally makes a marked improvement on both transmit and receive. |
Chad
Intermediate Member Username: Chad
Post Number: 315 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 9:40 pm: |
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2.5 watts of MODULATION in sideband? Hmmmmmmm Sideband is all mod with no carrier meaning I would have a 2.5W radio, no thanks! Chad |
Hollowpoint445
Intermediate Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 393 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 6:05 am: |
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Chad - What he meant was an AM signal with a carrier of 10 watts RMS shows 15 watts RMS at 100% modulation. The additional 5 watts of power is modulation and is equally distributed in each sideband of the AM signal which gives 2.5 watts RMS per sideband. |
Chad
Intermediate Member Username: Chad
Post Number: 317 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 9:21 am: |
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Right on, thanks! |
Hotwire
Intermediate Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 401 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 10:39 am: |
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I dont know? I still think the antenna is the key to a good radio. |
Itatorro
Junior Member Username: Itatorro
Post Number: 23 Registered: 6-2005
| Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 11:52 am: |
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I must be getting brain washed. My wife woke me the other night and ask how come i kept saying: S9s9s9s9s9s9s9s9s9sS9s9s9s9s9s9s9 My 257 will be here soon. |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 979 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 11:52 pm: |
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close enough, itatorro. FOR NOW!!! |
Jon666
Intermediate Member Username: Jon666
Post Number: 385 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 7:20 pm: |
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i think you guys are all magnum cheerleaders i do not see that a magnum is much better than any other radio. i had 3 brand new magnums from copper whith the tune. i was not that impressed with them. jon |
Im4jc
Intermediate Member Username: Im4jc
Post Number: 113 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 7:28 pm: |
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Wowza. Talk about resurrecting an old thread from the dead, lol. Sounds like someone wants to go a few rounds. Ding Ding...round 2! |
Jon666
Intermediate Member Username: Jon666
Post Number: 386 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 8:08 pm: |
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from experience yes i would jon |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 847 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 10:31 pm: |
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The 95T still wins because of the big face needle meter. I don't believe the 2970 can be nearly as loud as the Galaxy. How could anything be that loud? Wow! Now, if only the 95T had memory channels and scan.... mikefromms |
Im4jc
Intermediate Member Username: Im4jc
Post Number: 114 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 11:04 pm: |
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S9: big needle meter...loud loud loud...and it can actually hear. No contest. |
Jon666
Intermediate Member Username: Jon666
Post Number: 387 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 6:48 pm: |
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and pick up everything the magnums recive is way to sensitive for me |
Moonraker
Intermediate Member Username: Moonraker
Post Number: 157 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 7:38 pm: |
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If the magnum's receive is too sensitive, you can just turn down the RF gain just like on...Oh I forgot the 95t doesn't have an RF gain. |
Im4jc
Intermediate Member Username: Im4jc
Post Number: 117 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 7:20 pm: |
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My experience with my properly aligned S9 is that it not only receives better than the majority of mobiles on the market today, but it is also quieter in the noise department, so I cannot understand what you mean by : "and pick up everything the magnums recive is way to sensitive for me" Picking up distant stations is a desirable quality in a radio. Producing a high noise floor isn't, and the S9 does the former but not the latter. Jon666: How about some real dialogue here instead of little snippets that are thrown about. |
Jon666
Intermediate Member Username: Jon666
Post Number: 388 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 8:22 pm: |
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they where done by copper so im shure they where tuned properly i have a brand new omegaforce s45 i used it once. picked up all kinds of white noise i bought a new s9 from copper. all the same noise sold it the next day on ebay. for half price. if they work good for you great. i will not buy another magnum. that is just my exreience with them. besides that they use cheap!!!!!nobs jon |
Freebird
Intermediate Member Username: Freebird
Post Number: 380 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 9:09 pm: |
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I was thinking maybe just maybe I would buy a galaxy 95t.Let me see do they drift like the 99?A few guys here where I am have them and the both say they drift for a while the S9 doesnt drift?hmmm..are both clarifiers unlocked on the 95t like the S9?nice looking radio. |
Jon666
Intermediate Member Username: Jon666
Post Number: 389 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 9:27 pm: |
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your choice different strokes for differnt folks some people like country others like rock and roll it boils down to what radio works good for you. jon |
Freebird
Intermediate Member Username: Freebird
Post Number: 381 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 1:11 am: |
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oh well think ill pass on the 95t the galaxy radios are missing to many upper channels for me..they dont have channels...44,49,54,59,64,68,70,89,94,and 99 in them for some reason strange. |
Kmt36264
New member Username: Kmt36264
Post Number: 6 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 7:16 am: |
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I love my 95t except for no rf gain. Since I'm using it as a base, I can live without it. My I-10k antenna is very quiet so i don't mind keeping the ears wide open. The receive is as good as any radio I have ever owned. The drift is really bad if you are looking at the counter but you probably won't notice it otherwise. Freebird, the missing channels are there. You have to use the 10kc switch. |
Im4jc
Intermediate Member Username: Im4jc
Post Number: 120 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 11:04 am: |
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Well, if you do ever decide that you need an RF Gain, you might try this. I haven't tried it and haven't verified that it works, but here is what I found: ----------------- RF Gain Mod: Locate R72 just behind L5 (first receive coil, the one without a metal can on it), and run a wire from the right end of it through a 1k-5k pot to ground. Its that simple. For the RF gain to work, the radio's 40-db pad must be engaged. If you use a 5k pot, I recommend running the POT in parallel with a 2.5k resistor to keep the gain from dropping too fast with a small pot movement. If you have a 2k or 2.5k pot, that works even better. ------------------------ |
Freebird
Intermediate Member Username: Freebird
Post Number: 384 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 3:22 pm: |
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oh ok sorry i didnt know that thanks for the info..I thing galaxy has the best meters on the exports.gotta love those big square meters easy to see. |
Hatchet
Intermediate Member Username: Hatchet
Post Number: 101 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 9:01 pm: |
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All radios drift, including the S-9. The 95T dosent drift at all once warmed up. You can add the RF gain to the 95T easily. |
Jon666
Intermediate Member Username: Jon666
Post Number: 392 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:59 pm: |
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i agree good radio jon |