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Big_l
Junior Member Username: Big_l
Post Number: 32 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 7:20 am: |
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Anybody hear anything about new releases of Magnums coming out this summer. Coming from rumorville I hear there supposed to be quite a few new models added to the RF Limited list.There is an S-6 which is going to be like an S-9 without ssb and then there is also speculation of an S-12 with 2-2290 transistors along with an S-8 or whatever. Any truth to this? |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5037 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 8:14 am: |
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Big_I, The Magnum S-6 will arrive around the 1st of April. Can't say on the others as I have not heard yet. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |
Lowpowerhal
Intermediate Member Username: Lowpowerhal
Post Number: 401 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 9:04 am: |
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Dont touch that dial, stay tuned for further information.This fourm is the place to be when the facts come to light. 73 |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5038 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 9:56 am: |
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This is Information that I received from Sam Lewis Owner of RF Limited / Magnum International. The Magnum S-6 AM/FM Radio is the Exact same radio as the S-9 without the SSB Feature. Differences between the Galaxy 66 and the Magnum S-6. #1 ~ S-6 has Large Round S/RF Meter instead of large rectangle meter. #2 ~ S-6 has built in bridge for high VSWR indicator "flashing light" (switch on rear panel disables bridge) (Galaxy does not have the bridge). #3 ~ S-6 has front mounted Microphone connector and "double barrel" connector located on right side of radio. Galaxy only has 1 side mounted microphone connector. #4 ~ S-6 is programmable from 25.615 ~ 30.555MHz (8 bands, Galaxy has 8 bands 25.165 ~ 28.765 Not Programmable. #5 ~ S-6 has single 8 position band switch. Galaxy has complicated 2-switch system. #6 ~ S-6 has 6 digit Blue frequency counter with channel LED's. Galaxy has 5 digit green frequency counter ands channel LED's. #7 ~ Both Galaxy and S6 have Variable LED dimmer controls. #8 ~ S-6 Clarifier has 5KHz total excursion, Galaxy clarifier has 10KHz total excursion which confuses radio operator. #9 ~ S-6 has Top Gun compressor/modulator; on AM power can be set at 1 watt and swing to 45 watts. Galaxy has no modulator and AM Power is 25 watts PEP. Both radios have Variable RF power control. #10 ~ S-6 has Turbo Echo and All Mode Talkback. Galaxy has conex type echo and AM only feedback type talkback. #11 ~ S-6 comes with Free "Old Glory" Patriotic front panel. Galaxy does not. #12 ~ S-6 comes packed with Full Schematic and PLO (Parts Layout). Galaxy has No technical information shipped with radios. Any functions not mentioned are the same in both radios. Hope this help's, Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN
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Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5039 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 10:02 am: |
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NOW WE NEED YOUR HELP! How many of the Copper Forum Members would be interested in buying this Magnum S-6 Radio? We need to know if this would be an item that the Copper Forum Members would want Copper to carry. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |
Mrbigshot
Junior Member Username: Mrbigshot
Post Number: 29 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 12:29 pm: |
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im more intrested in a mini magnum |
Scrapiron63
Advanced Member Username: Scrapiron63
Post Number: 769 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 2:06 pm: |
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I don't know how many on this forum would buy a radio without sideband, but I can tell you from experience the overall market for cb/export type radios could care less about sideband. Just give them the other options/toys they like, and it looks like this one has all of'em. For truckers and others, I would bet it will be a good seller. When Galaxy came out with the 66 I didn't think it would go over very well, especially at the price they were. I thought why would you need a big meter, freq counter and slider on an AM/FM radio, to go in a truck. But that thing was one of the most popular radios in my part of the country. Just my 3 cents worth. scrapiron |
1861
Member Username: 1861
Post Number: 98 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 2:33 pm: |
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I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED . MOST OF MY RADIOS HAVE SIDEBAND , BUT I NEVER USE IT MOBIL . I AM PLANNING ON GETTING A NEW MOBIL RIG . S-6 LOOKS LIKE IT COULD JUST BE IT |
Ashtray
Junior Member Username: Ashtray
Post Number: 41 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 4:04 pm: |
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I want the Magnum 357. 150 watts. |
Ashtray
Junior Member Username: Ashtray
Post Number: 42 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 6:51 pm: |
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any chance Copper will ever carry the 357? |
Big_l
Junior Member Username: Big_l
Post Number: 33 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 7:36 pm: |
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If Magnum made a newer model 150 watt rig I'd be first in line. AS far as the S-6 goes I wouldn't be interested ONLY because I already own an S-3. |
Truckerdon
Junior Member Username: Truckerdon
Post Number: 20 Registered: 5-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 7:38 pm: |
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Well not all Truckers are on the AM thing. However I had a 33 if you know what I mean. If I had a chance I'd of bought any radio that I could get SSB on. I waited and I got the Omega Force S 45. I have made a few contacts, on 38 LSB and I did sort of connect with CEF 114. But the AM skip was awful. I did hear CEF 463, But My barefoot Mobile would not get through His Computer Noise. Would I buy a radio Like the S 6. I also know Truckers would bend over and pick it up. However some would probably go out of band and mess around in Ham Band. Soap Box Off 73 Don CEF 336 |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 518 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 8:44 pm: |
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no SSB=no purchase. from rumors i've heard of S12, that'd be a 'definitely-probably' |
Troublemaker
Member Username: Troublemaker
Post Number: 96 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 9:03 pm: |
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probably not,just ordered the 3200, will probably be shot when it arrives!!hehehe |
Dd18
Junior Member Username: Dd18
Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 10:06 pm: |
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a 150W S9? I'd say probably definitely! |
Ashtray
Junior Member Username: Ashtray
Post Number: 43 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 11:59 pm: |
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"quote" If Magnum made a newer model 150 watt rig I'd be first in line."quote" They do...the magnum 357. I'd post the link to the radio...but I don't think that would go over well with our moderators, who are doing a heck of a great job around here by the way. |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5044 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 1:09 am: |
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Ashtray, Sorry, but RF Limited / Magnum International has not made the Magnum 357 for several years now. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |
Bc910
Intermediate Member Username: Bc910
Post Number: 383 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 10:24 am: |
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I was never impressed with the 357 All it was any way was a 257 (GREAT RADIO) with its own matched amp. I can do that, big deal! Just my opinion BC |
Big_l
Junior Member Username: Big_l
Post Number: 34 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 7:26 am: |
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What I meant is an 150 watt version of an S-3 / S-9. |
Hotwire
Intermediate Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 138 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 10:02 am: |
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If it does'nt have sideband I don't think many hams, freebanders and some cber's will go for it. I bet it would be a trucker favorite. Heck SSB is where most of the fun is. Why does it even go into the 10 meter band without sideband? |
Bruce
Senior Member Username: Bruce
Post Number: 2294 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 12:06 pm: |
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Hotwire .... your right ... The problem the S-3 has is a AM radio on 10 meters ( except for 29.0-29.2) is like running CW on cb ch19. Fm mode works well but again was never set up to run as a usefull radio on 10 meters ( 29.600 ) with no offsets and no tone would have very limited use on FM and none at all on the repeaters. The S-3 is a nice radio however using a channel selector and 10 khz spacing limits it to a EXPORT radio with very limited use as a ham rig. |
Mikefromms
Intermediate Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 480 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 6:20 pm: |
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Would I buy an S-6? It depends on the price. But I also like to have ssb. It's good to have all these choices. Magnum sounds like they are going to really compete with Galaxy by having many many different models. mikefromms |
Mikefromms
Intermediate Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 484 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 11:13 pm: |
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The Magnum 257 is a lot of radio. I did the tune up as described on this site. Wish now I had done the conversion also. Modulation turned up from 65% to 100%, watts from about 7 to 10 1/2. One fine radio. It's getting harder and harder to justify the higher costing models of Magnum for me personally. But wow, all these fine radios! Mikefromms |
Chad
Intermediate Member Username: Chad
Post Number: 181 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 9:07 am: |
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I JUST did the tune up last night. I was impressed with the results also. Chad |
Hotwire
Intermediate Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 149 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 10:56 am: |
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Is there a pic of this new radio somewhere? |
Hotwire
Intermediate Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 150 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 11:08 am: |
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Hey Bruce! Its strange, why WOULD Magnum put 10 meter in that radio without sideband? That would lower the price and I would surely consider a purchase. Like I was saying, bootleggers and drivers are the only ones who will consider buying this radio.I cant get over how worthless the radio is without sideband. |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5077 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 12:02 pm: |
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Hotwire, This is Information that I received from Sam Lewis Owner of RF Limited / Magnum International. The Magnum S-6 AM/FM Radio is the Exact same radio as the S-9 without the SSB Feature. Differences between the Galaxy 66 and the Magnum S-6. #1 ~ S-6 has Large Round S/RF Meter instead of large rectangle meter. #2 ~ S-6 has built in bridge for high VSWR indicator "flashing light" (switch on rear panel disables bridge) (Galaxy does not have the bridge). #3 ~ S-6 has front mounted Microphone connector and "double barrel" connector located on right side of radio. Galaxy only has 1 side mounted microphone connector. #4 ~ S-6 is programmable from 25.615 ~ 30.555MHz (8 bands, Galaxy has 8 bands 25.165 ~ 28.765 Not Programmable. #5 ~ S-6 has single 8 position band switch. Galaxy has complicated 2-switch system. #6 ~ S-6 has 6 digit Blue frequency counter with channel LED's. Galaxy has 5 digit green frequency counter ands channel LED's. #7 ~ Both Galaxy and S6 have Variable LED dimmer controls. #8 ~ S-6 Clarifier has 5KHz total excursion, Galaxy clarifier has 10KHz total excursion which confuses radio operator. #9 ~ S-6 has Top Gun compressor/modulator; on AM power can be set at 1 watt and swing to 45 watts. Galaxy has no modulator and AM Power is 25 watts PEP. Both radios have Variable RF power control. #10 ~ S-6 has Turbo Echo and All Mode Talkback. Galaxy has conex type echo and AM only feedback type talkback. #11 ~ S-6 comes with Free "Old Glory" Patriotic front panel. Galaxy does not. #12 ~ S-6 comes packed with Full Schematic and PLO (Parts Layout). Galaxy has No technical information shipped with radios. Any functions not mentioned are the same in both radios. Hope this help's, Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN Click on the link below for the picture of the S-9 and it will look the same. S-9/S-6 Hope this helps, Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |
Spydrman
Member Username: Spydrman
Post Number: 61 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 6:08 pm: |
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I more than would be interested in the s-6, I hope you do stock them!!! |
Bruce
Senior Member Username: Bruce
Post Number: 2305 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 7:34 am: |
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Hotwire ... A GOOD am/fm 10 meter radio would have a legit use for the 10 meter ham. A radio for 10 would have to have 1 KHZ Tuneing, tone ( encode ) and offset for FM. Without these its useless. |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5091 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 9:28 am: |
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The Magnum S-6 is designed for people who want or use AM/FM Only and want good power out and the extra features that they will use without having to add an amplifier. Actually in the 30+ Years that the 1st Sargant and I have been in the radio business here in central illinois that equals about 90% of the customers we have had over the years. The general over all sales of AM or AM/FM radios only radios have always been about 8 or 9 to 1 over units with SSB. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN
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Ashtray
Junior Member Username: Ashtray
Post Number: 47 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 4:29 pm: |
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I own a AM only radio. I'm not even sure if it works anymore. I haven't turned it on in years. |
Bruce
Senior Member Username: Bruce
Post Number: 2306 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 11:12 pm: |
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Ashtray The S-3 ( and i owned one ) is a EXCELENT radio sounds GREAT on the air .......as will the S-6. Now it sounds like you dont use am which is fine but many do ..... i realy like the way it sounds on 10 meters. MY kinda negitive comments was as a 10 meter radio it was very limited as a EXPORT radio its one of the best. I sold the S-3 because it would not work on FM the way i needed it do do and was limited as a ham radio in how it covered frequencys. As a EXPORT radio Nothing beats a magnum ...... JUST MY OPINION. BTW i have right now (3) HTX-10 and a MAG-257 ( STOCK ) love them on 10 meters |
Hotwire
Intermediate Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 159 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 12:34 pm: |
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Thanks Lon. |
Ashtray
Junior Member Username: Ashtray
Post Number: 48 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 5:54 pm: |
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Bruce I use AM probably more than sideband... I look at radios as I look at cars. Sure, I really don't need air conditioning in my car, but it's darn sure nice to have. |
Bruce
Senior Member Username: Bruce
Post Number: 2308 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 8:35 pm: |
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Ashtray I go a long way back on AM and love the mode ... Its too bad its a lost mode on most of the ham bands ...... Im realy with you on this here is almost 40 years ago except for some gray hair and smaller radios not much has changed .....
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Mikefromms
Intermediate Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 488 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 7:03 am: |
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What will be the cost of the S-6? mikefromms |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5125 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 7:21 am: |
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Mikefromms, Sorry, I have not heard as Magnum has not even recceived them yet. Figure maybe 40 or 50 less than an S-9? I am just guessing on this as I have No Idea what the cost will be! But, Copper will have the LOWEST Price on them. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |
Racer_x
Intermediate Member Username: Racer_x
Post Number: 109 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 7:36 am: |
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I'd NEVER buy a "10 Meter radio" without SSB because that's mostly what use in the 10 Meter spectrum. AM and FM are fine, but most of the AM/FM "10 Meter radios" don't have frequency coverage into the AM/FM sub-bands anyway. Those that do don't have CTCSS or repeater offset ability to use FM repeaters. Why even put 10 Meter coverage in AM/FM only radios if it doesn't have CTCSS and repeater offset ability? Make them stop at 28MHz when they're converted. The folks that buy the radios to use instead of CBs won't care, and it'll keep some of the less aware off of the 10 meter spectrum. For that matter, why put 10 Meter coverage in the all mode radios if they don't have CTCSS and repeater offset capability? Make the "Expanded Mode" stop at 27.990 MHz and only allow 10 Meter coverage in a band by itself. RF Limited / Magnum International should make a 10 Meter radio similar in function to the Uniden HR 2600 with a Chipswitch. That's what I run now, and I have 2 spares in case this fabulous radio ever gets damaged beyond repair. I can use them for 10/12 Meters, actually use it for tone protected repeaters (which describes nearly ALL 10 meter repeaters), FM simplex, AM, and SSB. The only thing I really wish this radio had was a variable mic gain control instead of just a push button attenuator, a switchable/variable speech processor, and a way to change the CTCSS tone without taking the covers off the radio - perhaps a rotary switch on the front panel.
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Bruce
Senior Member Username: Bruce
Post Number: 2317 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 7:04 pm: |
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"most of the AM/FM "10 Meter radios" don't have frequency coverage into the AM/FM sub-bands anyway." This is TRUE and a gripe of mine but if the EXPORT radio had good coverage and 5 khz spaceing it would be a fine 10 meter radio for at least AM use. The same problem exsists for 6 meters NOT ALL REPEATERS ARE TONE on 10 or 6 but enough that a tone board is a good idea. Now i had a chipswitch lincoln with the 2sc2999 mod a ch guard and diode mods it worked great but MOST EXPORT radios are junk made for the CB croud some like the 257 are good entry level radios and very good mobles.
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Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5144 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 1:19 pm: |
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OK, HERES THE SCOOP Direct from Sam Lewis Owner Of RF Limited and Magnum International! #1 ~ S-12 ~ 150 Watt Radio? Sorry but NO just a Myth/Rumor someone started that had nothing better to do. And there has NEVER been any plans to make any radio with 2-2290's. This one really got Sam laughing and he wonders were people come up with this stuff. #2 ~ S-8 Radio? Again NO! Just another Myth/Rumor someone started that did not have anything better to do. Sam figured that someone must have pulled this false information on a new S-8 and S-12 from somewhere on his or her lower body that I cannot mention on the Copper Forum. #3 ~ DX Version of the S-3 / S-6 / S-9? Yes, this is True but it will be a LONG time coming maybe in the middle or end of 2006. The DX Version of the S-3 / S-6 / S-9 will be a High Power radio but will be in the 75 to 90 watt range. And probably MOSFET powered. #4 ~ Sorry, but NO 150 watt radios are on the horizon or planned for production from Magnum International. #5 ~ LIMITED EDITION NITRO EXPRESS S-9? YES! This radio will be a LIMITED EDITION! with the Factory installed Nitro Knobs with a Dimmer Control. #6 ~ As soon as Sam gets one in it will be on it's way to me for a REVIEW for the Copper Forum Members! #7 ~ The S-6 will only have a Coarse Clarifier (No Fine Clarifier) that will allow 2.5hz each side of center NOW YOU HAVE ALL OF THE CORRECT INFORMATION DIRECT FROM SAM LEWIS! Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN
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Bruce
Senior Member Username: Bruce
Post Number: 2324 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 2:50 pm: |
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No 257HP/DX yet? Darn ...... |
Brewdirect
Member Username: Brewdirect
Post Number: 61 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 2:44 am: |
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I want that S-12....if I'm going to spend the $$ I want the whole deal. I'll wait one month, save my money and go for a radio that will do everything. If magnum sells a radio that will do 150Watts that is made well and will last I will sell all my other radios and buy that sucker.
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Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5148 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 7:20 am: |
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Brewdirect, Some how you must have mis-read my post above. There is NO such thing as a Magnum S-12 or S-8. There are NO plans to manufacture new Magnum Radios that will do 150 watts. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |
Carls86fiero
New member Username: Carls86fiero
Post Number: 1 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 5:41 pm: |
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just thought i would throw my 2 cents in. i just got a magnum 257 yesterday and i love it..so easy to convert...even i could do it... |
Brewdirect
Member Username: Brewdirect
Post Number: 62 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 8:05 pm: |
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I know there isn't an S-12 and that somebody made it up as an "example name" of what they "could" produce. All I'm saying is that I "wish" they would produce it. The S-9 is a great radio, add more watts and it would crush everything! |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5566 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 11:59 pm: |
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Bringing this Topic back to the Top Again on the Magnum S-6 Radio. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |