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Sitm
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought that it would be interesting to discuss radio output. I am not talking about with an amp, or radios designed strictly for ham broadcast. I am talking about radios that are intended to be modified (and you all know what they are) to broadcast on 11 meters. How do they tune up, what are their performance wattage output dead key and swing. (Disclamer--ridiculous exaggerations excluded please.) Please enclude production radios and radios that are no longer produced. Again, stictly radios that are intended to be used for 11 meter and surrounding channels. 10, 11 and 12 meter. Please exclude any conversation about legality.
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Bruce
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Post Number: 1152
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Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ITS ILLEAGAL ....... HE HE HE

Ok that aside the ranger 2950dx the mag 257 both do a good job when used on 10 and 11 meters. The 2950DX and a chipswitch lincoln is very good i run both on 10 and 12 and worked my share of dx with them.
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Intruder
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Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Galaxy DX95T
74 dead key
180 pep
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Bruce
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Post Number: 1154
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Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 8:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if you want to realy cover some frequencys.....
Try a .....

ft-100d
receive .1 mhz to 900 mhz in 10 hz steps
all modes

transmit 1-450 mhz ( with some skips ) 100 watts 1-54 mhz, 50 watts on 144mhz, 10 watts on 420-450

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Sitm
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Post Number: 124
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Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 2:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although you seem to be very knowledgable in regards to radios........ I wasn't inquiring about ham equipment in general. So, could you please, in the future exclude ham (only) equipment in your answers. (Please see initial question)
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Tech808
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Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 4:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From your Post above:

I am talking about radios that are intended to be modified (and you all know what they are) to broadcast on 11 meters.
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The Radio's you are talking about are HAM Radio's / HAM Equipment and 10 and 10/12 Meter Ham Radio's & Export's that are designed to Operate on the Ham Band's, but can be converted to operate on 11 Meter's / CB.

Which cover's all of the Radio's listed above in Post's.


Lon
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Sitm
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Post Number: 126
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Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, apparently when I want to start a particular topic, I must first go and read each and every post to see if my post has merit??
I am sure that about everything has been covered.
Now I am talking about radios that are built by manufacturers that have some knowledge that they will be modified for use on 11 meter. Such as the ones that are sold in coppers. Or......any other production 11 meter radio. It seems that alot of my questions are getting answered with "that has already been covered." If it is too much trouble to get these questions answered, I will go to another forum.
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Tech808
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Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok let's try this.

Ranger 2970DX 10 & 12 Meter Ham Radio Opened for 11 Meter's.
Dead Keys from 10 to 40 Swings from 100 - 175-180

Ranger 2995DX 10 & 12 Meter Radio Opened for 11 Meter's.
Dead Key's 10 to 40 & Swing's 100 - 200+

Galaxy Saturn Turbo 10 Meter Radio Opened for 11 Meter's.
Dead Key's from 20 to 100 and swings from 100 to around 200.

Magnum Omega Force S-45 10 Meter Radio Opened for 11 Meter's.
Dead Key with MTX on: Dead Key 1 swings 40-45, With 14.0 to 14.4 Volts

Magnum S-3 Ham Radio Opened for 11 Meter's.
With Top Gun Modulator on and 14.6 volts.
Dead keys 2 and swings 48 to 50

Magnum S-3200B 10 Meter Radio Opened for 11 Meter's
Dead Keys 2 and swings 16

President HR2510 Ham Radio Opened for 11 Meters
Dead Keys 2 to 12 and swings 25 to 30

President Lincoln Ham Radio Opened for 11 Meter's
Same as Above.

Texas Ranger 696F SSB Base / Added Channels
Dead Key's 2 swings 14


All of the above are Barefoot readings as you requested.



Lon

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Ca346
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Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a HR2510 (Lincoln) in the garage/shop with an IMAX2000 up on a 36 ft mast. I bought the radio from a neighbor and it had been 'tuned' by whoever he bought it from. It was putting out almost 40W SSB. I ended up turning in back down to the legal 4W/12W output and run it through a small amp. It works much better. It was a pain in the neck to adjust for me, (no outside power knob) but it operates great and runs cool. I know this doesn't fit your criteria, but my other radio does.

It's a Ranger AR-3500. I use it in my pick-up with a Wilson 1000 roof mount. It puts out 100W (No xtra amp) and I believe it is stock. I have talked to Australia from California through it when conditions were open.
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Sitm
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Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is extremely helpful and very nice of you. I appreciate your knowledge and your years and years of radio experience that you are willing to share with us. I also appreciate that you are a veteran and I want to personally thank you for the freedom that my family and myself have.
Semper Fi
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Mikefromms
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Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How many of these radios go down to 24 mhz for the CEF roll call on Sunday?

Mikefromms
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Tech808
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 1:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mikefromms,

The 2970DX, 2985DX and 2995DX will cover the 12 Meter Sunday CEF Nets.

And the President HR2510 and President Lincoln Radios will also cover them if they have been Chip Switched and the 12 meter Modification Kit installed.

Lon
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Mikefromms
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Lon. At one time I thought I read where the S-9 covered 24 mhz. Guess I read wrong. That 2995dx is looking more attractive all the time.

mikefromms
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392
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't forget the Connex 4800 radios! They cover 12 meters also. I think this is the only one with the CB look that covers down that far wit 480 channels. I enjoy mine as it will swing around 40.
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Hotwire
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Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 9:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank goodness somebody mentioned the Connex 4800. Which I think is the best SSB radio I have ever heard thank you very much. <<<< My opinion of course. My Connex Dead Keys 1.5 & 9-10 watts hi & lo. Swings to 40 watts. I have heard it is capable of a 60 to 70 watt swing, but thats with some serious tech tuning. Oh!! And loud as heck. Get people all the time tellin me to back it down. No garble no static. You can hear a mosquito fart on your side. Since working 11 meters with this radio it has taken my DX hobby to the next level.Also if you like just a tid bit of echo I can get such a small lightning quick echo you can hardly notice but gives a more brighter rich sound.Ok I'm braggin a bit but hey!, I think we all brag on our radios time to time.WE all know its the antenna that deserves the attention most of all.
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Mikefromms
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Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 6:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So many of these good performing radios have the sorry bar meters. It ruins the whole radio.

mikefromms
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Racer_x
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Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 3:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LCD meters are okay once you become accustomed to them. Would I prefer an analog meter? Sure, but I can use the LCD meter just as well.

I think there are a couple Midland AM radios that have both a needle meter and an LCD bar segment meter and I like that idea.
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Crackerjack
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Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 7:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Racer X: I can't really figure out what my bar meter is telling me, on my Magnum 257.

When I transmit, it says 30 to the far right of the sliding bar. I supposed that it was telling me that I was putting out 30W, but it says that no matter what I turn the power down to. Just an example.
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Racer_x
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Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 4:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does the meter change when you use SSB? What does the manual say about it?

I have a 2510 and the LCD meter works just like the analog meter in SSB radios when I have it on the S/RF function. I can also switch it to MOD and it shows modulation when transmitting and reverts to S-meter function on receive.
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Crackerjack
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Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 6:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Racer:

No -at least I haveb't noticed a difference.

The manual says NOTHING about what the meter represents. I could not imagine that "30" would represent midulation.

Since the radio (Magnum 257) is capable of 30W, I supposed that it was power, but it either reads "30" or nothing at all after the sliding scale.

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Crackerjack
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Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 6:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Racer:

Here is a pic of the 257 transmitting

http://www.kcb.co.uk/10metre/257.gif

John
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Mikefromms
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Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The meter on my Magnum 257 is crazy too. It give almost everyone a 30 reading. It rarely shows me transmitting the same thing. Sometimes the bar fills out and sometimes it is halfway or nothing at all. But the thing does have great ears!

mikefromms

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