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Wolverine
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 6:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just when I thought that I knew everything about what makes a superior amplifier, and which one to buy, Now I'm told that amps with 2" transformers are more powerful, and outperform amps with 1" transformers i.e. X-force/Magnaforce, vs. Texas Star, Palomar, Klv, etc. Also, Amps with 3" transformers i.e, Skullcraka, etc, are superior to amps with 2" transformers (X-Force, Magnaforce). I thought that it was all about the pills, 1 being better than another, i.e., SC 2879 pills are stronger than SD 1446 or SC 2290. I do know that on street utility poles, that transformers are used to step up, or step down voltage. But would someone explain in laymens terms how mobile amp transformers differ, when using a normal 14 volt battery set-up??
Wolverine.
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Bruce
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 9:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hummmm i would think as long as you dont saurate the transformer core it should not matter how big it is and " the pills " IE transistors will determin your final output if run corectly i dont think otherwise the guy on the other end will care or hear change.
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Bigbob
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 4:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it is for heat control you use a small transformer with many turns of small wire or large transformer with few turns of large wire,you want the heat in the heat sink not output transformer.Bigbob
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Wolverine
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 4:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce, when you say, and I think you're saying, don't saturate the transformer core, the 1st thought that comes to mind, is a sponge saturated with water, or meat saturated with fat. In this context do you mean the transformer being saturated with energy or power?? Am I reading you right? Different size transformers in amps, and what they are for, still has me confused when it comes to relative output of various amps.
Wolverine.
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Bigbob
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 6:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The larger cores with the larger wire can handle higher loads without OVERHEATING heat is the great destroyer of electronic components,overheating ferrite can crack them and change their value,I'm not bruce so you can disregard the previous statement,the foregoing was based on logic and not experience.Bigbob
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Bruce
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 8:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wolverine

Yes just like a sponge the core gets full of magnetic / rf enegry and cant hold no more the larger the more it will hold but if you cant produce enough to fill it then there is no reason to use larger ones now logic is the bigger it is the more output you can get from it but again if your outputs only run say 100 watts using a core that will take 300 is not going to increase your output.
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Marlboro_Man
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 8:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some of your comp. amps are set up to run on say 12-24 volts. More volts in = more wattage out!! The new Super palomar base units are set up on a 24 volt power supply using 6 pll's. Two 2290's driving four 2879's I think.
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Wolverine
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 2:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for your simplified answers guys! I understand perfectly now, and now I finally know what saturation means to electronic transformers. For the record, I must say that "COPPER RULES".
Wolverine.
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Bruce
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 8:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This place makes cores


http://www.palomar-engineers.com/

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