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sandblaster
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2001 - 8:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Between the Palomar 250 and the KLV351P.
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307 (307)
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2001 - 6:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

KLV!!!! Very well built "Strip Lined" layout (instead of the garage built junk type) and they work great!!!!
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david
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2001 - 9:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 351p on the way...I'll post here after I've had a chance to play with it...73s!!
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sandblaster
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2001 - 8:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've heard something about different classes of amps, are these two the same class? Can you explain the classes?

Thanks
Sandblaster
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307 (307)
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2001 - 8:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am putting something together to post about the calsses , however here is a quickie..

Class A is like running a car at 6000 RPM (100watts)
and popping the clutch when you need to tap
into the power. Very inefficient (also generates
lots of heat) but very high performance.

Class AB is like running a at 1 RPM
and Stepping on the gas to bring it up
to the needed RPM then popping the clutch.
Much more efficient. But not as high performance.

Class A-A/B is a compromise.
is like idling at 2000 RPM (10 watts 90%)
and transitions to Class AB above 10 watts.
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vernonott
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2001 - 9:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Isn't there also a class C ?
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307 (307)
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2001 - 6:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes ,there is , I am puttining a WORD doc together to post. It will be here soon.
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honky tonk man 593
Posted on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 7:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

class c is just powerful!!! i run class c x-force and absolutely love it with my galaxy 66!! loud and proud. class c is only for am/fm transmitions but who wants to tune the sideband in a car anyway. if you want am power get a class c amp....x-force or davemade are very good choices!!
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Copper_Fan
Posted on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

whats the palomar 250?? a class c??? does that mean it can only be used on am/fm not SSB????? its the one i see on the nightly auction with 2 MRF455's ?????????
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307 (307)
Posted on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am sure it is a Class AB-1
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Pole Kat 613
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What class amplifier are the Messenger line? Is it really worth the expense for just a little better signal report?
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HTM593
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 8:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

class ab i think but not really in my opinion better than say the all famous texas star which seems to plain kick butt. watch out they changed the pills from 2879 to 1446. stick with texas star you wont be disapointed. good luck
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-=PEAK=-
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 8:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Class AB-1 is used only when biasing tubes.
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cmm
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i am looking at the klv550 it says 300/600 do you know what am dead key to swing is and comparied to the boomer500 300rms 450pep dead key 300?price is better on the klv ? thanks guys
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highlander
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was wondering what the differences are between the palomar 225 and the palomar 250....The Copper website says they both have 2 mrf455 pills, so what accounts for the difference in power output? Is it the biasing?
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Harpoonman
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cmm,

Look up my review of the KLV 550 under "Product Reviews/Amplifiers/KLV 550" dated 09-09-01. I have a couple of posts there and I did some comparison testing of input v.s. output wattages for my Cobra 2000 GTL and Uniden Washington. I used a Dosey Test Center TC4001 for all results and I recorded the approximate dead key wattages and swing wattages on AM and the peak readings on SSB for each of the six power levels on the KLV 550 for each radio.

Harpoonman

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