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HONKY TONK MAN 593 OUTTA NC!!
Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2001 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok does this new 2970 green display do 150 watts stock or still only a 100? everysite says something different. does it now have two dual amp finals or no. thanks
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Tech181 (Tech181)
Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2001 - 1:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ranger's website shows the PEP power to be 150 watts.

Steve
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Copper_Fan
Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2001 - 2:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i get 150 from my 2970DX i know what you mean though the copper page says 100 watts even on the 2990DX and the box says 150watts i get 150 out of both radios i whistle into it but i get 150 i think its just a typo on the copper page did you click on the copper auction they have great deals on RCI's i got my 2950DX from them for $230 my 2990DX for $500 and my 2985DX for $355

http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?category=Radios
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HONKY TONK MAN 593 OUTTA NC !!
Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2001 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh heres one more question what about the mod and tune deal for 30$ does this mean that you peak it out cause i wouldnt like that just curious. i would want mod turned up a bit but not the power as ive never heard a 2970 lasting after this was done .not by copper but just in general.
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Ziggy_19692003
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Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone tell me how Ican get more receive out of my galaxy 55. with my 77 hooked up I can hear good but the 55 just doesnt hear so well maybe it needs a hearing aid
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Tech8541
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Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

no hearing aid...it needs to have the rx realigned to the cb freqs. all galaxies come with the rx portion tuned to the ham bands. so after conversion, the rx needs to realigned. the correct way to do this is with a low level rf gen and a sinad meter or scope hooked to the speaker leads.
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Bob_p
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 2:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About the Copper tuned RCI 2970DX I'm getting 30 watts dead key low power and swings to about 100 watts. 100 watts dead key on high power and it swings to 150. On SSB I'm getting 150 when I saw AHHHHHH into the mic, other wise it stays between 60 and 100 durring normal speech on my Dosy TC-4001.
The problem is it gets very hot when I operate for very long even on low power. In this case I could understand them not lasting very long if they all get as hot as mine. But it gets out, it sounds great and other than the heat issue it's a great radio. I'll be putting a fan in back to try and keep it from getting as hot.
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Tech808
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 3:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob_p,

We need to know what your EXACT set up is to be able to offer help:

#1 ~ Kind of Antenna are you using.
#2 ~ Where & How is your Antenna Mounted
#3 ~ What kind of Vehicle is it on?
#4 ~ Where are you getting your power for the radio from and are you getting enough?
#5 ~ Have you Checked the Coax as well as the Connectors (PL-259s and the SO-239 connector on the radio for Shorts?
#6 ~ Is you Coax in good shape?
#7 ~ Is the Radio and Antenna Grounded WELL/GOOD to the Frame?

We own and use the Old and New 2970DX Radios and also Corncob has the New 2970DX and we have never experienced this type of problems with them.

The More information you can give us the better chance we have to try and be of help.

Lon
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Bob_p
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 3:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for responding Lon I have the radio grounded by 15 feet of #14 solid core copper wire to a copper pipe about 3 feet in the ground. I'm using an Antron 99 and it is grounded pretty much by the same means. I am using a Pyramid PS 52KX power supply about 40 amps constant. I'm using 50 feet of RGX8 with pdl 259's and the coax is good.I have the ground wire on the radio attatched on the bolt that tightens the bracket to the case between the metal case and the bracket. The antenna is on a metal mast pipe about 35 feet tall and is mounted in the earth against the house. The SWR is 2.0.1 and I can't get it any lower. I don't know if this has any impact on how hot iot's getting, but I have an I-Max 2000 on it's way to be sure.
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Bob_p
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 4:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By the way Lon the antenna will not tune right. To get it so I can run it on 11 meters I have the rings all the way to the bottom. So I figure there's something going on with the antenna (reason for the new I-Max), but I don't know if that would cause the heat build up.
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Tech808
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob p,

Just curious, What Channel do you talk on and what is the SWR on Channels: 1 ~ 20 ~ 40.

It should be around or under 1.5.1 across the band.
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Bob_p
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 1:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lon right now on channel 1 it's about 1.3 on 20 it's about 1.5 at 40 about 2.0, and like I said the antenna won't tune. But I have the I-Max coming Friday so....

Thanks for asking hope this tells you something
Bob
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Bob_p
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 6:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your not going to beieve this, but I took the RCI off line and was using my Cobra 148 GTL, and all of a suden the meter was showing now power going to the coax, and the person I was talking to said I dropped out. I took the Dosy TC-4001 out of line in a panic and sure enough it was transmitting. Now I have the PDC 600 back in line and the Cobra 148 GTL whre it was getting pretty warm itself before is no running at near or normal temp. I have a feeling the Dosy has a short in it and was pushing power back into the radio. I just hope it's not done any real damage to the radios. I'm still not going to put the RCI back on line until I get the I-Max, but I feel this could have been a big part of my problem. THh RCI iwas just powerful enough to push the signal through and what was coming back was causing the radio to over heat.
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Tech808
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 6:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob p,

Thats called Process of Elimination, Good Job!

Lon
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Bob_p
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 7:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Lon It would never have occured to me that the Dosy meter could be causing the problem. I mean they have a great reputation and the meter would have been and was the last thing I would have suspected. Wow what a relief!!

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