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Niteowlb
| | Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 1:27 am: | 
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I have a rci-2950 and a klv 350 amp, my silver eagle sounds terrible with them even at low mic gain on radio and mic, is there a good hand mic for this combo (maybe astatic 575M6?) or should i stay with the stock mic?-BN |
Tech808
| | Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 8:38 am: |
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Niteowlb,
With the 575-M6 it will allow you to control the Volume as well as the Tone.
See Link below:
http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodA70-05014+
I have used and sold many of these Microphones and everyone has always been very pleased with the performance of them.
Just my thoughts.
Lon
Tech808 |
Bob_p
Junior Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 49
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 2:24 pm: |
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Tech808 how does the Turner Super Sidekick hold up again the 575-M6. I have both and like the desk mic. but the sound of the station is what really matters. |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 158
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 11:14 pm: |
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Bob P, the Super Sidekick is dynamic and the Astatic 575M6 as far as I know is Also, I do know the Super Sidekick has good bass responce. I've used a 575M6 on a Cobra 148 GTL and had very good reports with the tone control all the way down.
73, Carl CEF-357 |
Bob_p
Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 54
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 12:09 am: |
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Thanks Carl
I have the same radio, but am waiting for a RCI 2970DX coming, and naturally want the station to sound as good as possible. I also have an 1104C and on SSB have been told the 1104C sounds better than the Silver Eagle on SSB but not as loud. Again I want the sound quality, and I guess the only way to really find out is to wire all the mic's I have to the new radio and get radio checks but what a pain. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 3114
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 12:32 am: |
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Bob p,
Forget re-wiring all of your mics, do it the easy way with the MICROPHONE ADAPTERS. 
CHECK OUT THE 5 LINKS BELOW TO SEE ALL 5 MODELS.
http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodM60-07420+
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And also Read my Review on the Microphone Adapters located in the:
Subscriber (Preview) Area of the Forum here.
» Product Reviews
» Microphone Adapters
» Review
Getting a Set of these adapters will save you many hours of re-wiring and allow you to just plug your mics in and try them.
Hope this helps.
Lon
Tech808
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Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 160
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 2:38 am: |
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Bob P, I'm 66 years young, got started in this mess 41 years ago when I was just a pup. It took me until earlier this year to get the sound quality that I've been trying to put together all these years.
The station set up is a Uniden Grant XL, the Silver Eagle stand with the 10DA head, the amp. is the Palomar TX-250 made here in Oklahoma City and doesn't look like any of the others in any catalog, I run it on medium putting out right at 120 watts, I'm sending it out to an IMAX-2000. Since I added the 10DA head people have been asking if I've gotten a new radio, because they are giving reports that I sound the best and loudest and clearest they have ever heard me. When I tell them no, it's the same radio, just a different microphone head, they go on and say took you all these years to sound good. I only say thank you.
73, Carl CEF-357 |
Bob_p
Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 57
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 6:06 pm: |
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Carl it seems the 10DA head did the job for you, and I actually found one that I'm hoping to pick up this weekend.
Lon I do have one converter that works on my 4 pin to 6 pin D-104, but it's funny the four to five pin plug doesn't work with the Silver Eagle but does the 575?? anyway I just wired my 1104C and one of my Turner SSK's to 6 pin so I'll be ready Thursday when my radio returns.
I've heard so many people talk about the 10 DA head I have to believe it'll be the best talker, but in the 70's the Turner SSK was $85.00, and believe the D-104 was closer to $59.00, not sure at all what the SSB Special or the Eagle was selling for. But can not be sure it's been along time so... |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 161
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 7:40 pm: |
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You are correct on the price of the Super Sidekick, the TUG-8 D104 was $59.95, and the Silver Eagle depending on where you bought it was between $69.95 and $89.95. The 75th year Special Diamond Eagle which you can't find short of $250.00 now, was $139.95, the head has a real diamond on the back. The 10DA head new was $49.95 and the D-104 head was also.
73, Carl CEF-357 |
Bob_p
Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 61
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 3:00 pm: |
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Thanks Carl
I remember the Turner as being a great Mic and that the D-104 was popular too, but for SSB the Turner had the edge and the price to support it. That's probably why they went out of business... they were just too expensive for the average A/M user, but as ussual you got what you paid for. But that 10-DA head has always been something I've been interested in, and if I get the chance I would love to grab one. |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 162
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 9:21 pm: |
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Bob P,
I wish we had conditions right now, I would let you hear the 10DA. I think I know of one place to get them other than E-Bay, on E-bay you take a chance if it works or not. once you buy it on E-bay it's yours unless it's not as discribed on the E-Bay posting.
73, Carl CEF-357 |
Bob_p
Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 64
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 10:33 pm: |
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Just won a D-104 with a 10 DA head. The seller said it works fine and is in great shape. so I hope all I've heard about them is worth the money and death I face at the hands of my wife. |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 163
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 11:18 pm: |
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Bob P, Hope it's a good one for you, I think I saw the one you're speaking of. No need to have the war department beating you to death.
73, Carl CEF-357 |
Bob_p
Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 65
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 1:01 am: |
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Thanks Carl
I didn't realize mentioning the place I found it was against the forum policy, but am willing to comply.
I just hope the 10 DA head works as well as all I've heard about them, and will now I'll be able to compare the SSK with the real thing ;)
Tonignt I made contact with Chuckwalla? Oklahoma North Carolina and a few other places including the Yucatan Peninsula. So the DX is starting to pick up again. I read that tomorrow is supposed to be pretty good, but I never know whether or not to believe those propagation reports. Anyway who knows maybe I'll get lucky and catch you on the air
73
Bob |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 164
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 10:14 am: |
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Bob P, When there are any kind of good conditions listen for 962 South Central Oklahoma on 27.385.0 LSB. Last night Indiana was 30 over S9 with or without my preamp, of course chnl 38 LSB is where all the big stations hang out. A lot of the world knows me by my voice and first name on the frequency. It has been said, If you can't run with the big dogs stay on the porch.
73, Carl CEF-357 |
Bob_p
Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 70
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 2:12 am: |
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Hi Carl I heard OK the last couple of days out there, but it's been hit and miss. I hope the conditions stay in ther for awhile and who knows maybe we can make contact. I usseually go by 125 Southern Cal. But mught start using my CEF number 362.
I'll be listening
Bob |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 166
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 12:59 pm: |
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OK Bob have your number written down and will on Chnl. 38 LSB, 962 South Central Oklahoma.
73, Carl CEF-357 |
Cuddlebear
Intermediate Member
Username: Cuddlebear
Post Number: 211
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 7:25 pm: |
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Anybody remember the Golden Eagle? |
Bob_p
Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 94
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 2:01 am: |
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I got the 10 DA today and put it on my Silver Eagle. I asked a local which mic sounded better the Super Sidekick or the 10 DA and he wouldn't say!!! He said we were too close to give a solid choice. But I now have a 10 DA SSK 1104-C and Turner SSB +2 all wired for the RCI 2970DX only wish I could find someone to give me a good radio check. Living out in the sticks has it's own problems this is one time I wish we had more people living on the hill.. |
Bob_p
Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 96
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 1:47 pm: |
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Ok here goes today I made contact with a buddy about 60 miles away. I got a radio check fom him first using a Turner SSB+2 he said it sounded pretty good, not bad. THen I did the D-104 with the 10-DA head. He said it sounded like I was talking in a barrel, and the Turner SSB+2 sounded better. Finally I put the Super Sidekick on and he said the Sidekick was the best sounding of the three mic's I had used. I'm really dissapointed that the D-104 with the 10-DA head didn't hold up as well as the SSK I really like the way it looks. But of course I want the best sounding station possible so the SSK is what stays on. Maybe nest I'll try to get my Turner +3 back from a local I lent/gave to since they were having mic problems. Or try an internet auction to find one, but am interestedd in seeing which of those 2 sound better. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 3223
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 6:31 pm: |
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Cuddlebear,
Remember the Golden Eagle?
Yep I sure do everytime I turn around I have one Serial #02133 sitting on the shelf next to my DN-50 on a G stand. 
Lon |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 3224
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 6:37 pm: |
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Bob_p,
I as well as the 1st Sargant have experienced the same thing over the years using the 10-DA Heads and we finally gave up on them.
They work for some people and some people like them and others like myself & the 1st Sargant have just had no luck with them or sounded good with them.
Just our personal experience with the 10-DA Heads.
On a side note!
The other Night when talking with CEF #357 from OK. on SSB & AM he started with the 10-DA Head and was Loud & Clear but when he switched to the D-104 head it was like he added an extra 1KW and was Slamming and 100% Cleaner and Louder and sounded like he was right outside the window.
Lon
Tech808 |
Bob_p
Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 99
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 8:33 pm: |
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Lon I was just blown away by the radio check. But I know my D-104 Silver Eagle sounded great on my Cobra 148 GTL, and it sounds like junk, shallow and unnatural on the RCI. On the other hand the SSK didn't sound very good on the 148. Probably because it is a 4 wire version and I have a five pin 148. But it was strange to hear the SSB +2 sounded better than the 10-DA. I should have run the D-104 by itself to see what he said that far away. Maybe at a distance the D-104 wouldn't sound like junk. |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 189
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 1:11 pm: |
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Hey Lon, Now you tell me the difference between the 10-DA and the D-104 is night and day. On the other hand some people I talk to say the 10-DA has a more natural and mellow sound, Although my Grant XLs audio stage has been all redone and tailored to run with a Silver Eagle, also the Eagle series has a different sound than the TUG series.
Almost 2 years ago now we lost the best Uniden and Cobra technician there ever was to a failing heart. The Cobra 2000 GTLs,148GTLs, 148FGTLs and Grant XLs that he worked on are in great demand and draw a high dollar if any of them ever come up for sale. To give an idea how much the 148s and Grant XLs are worth, each one has an add on frequency counter, the full conversion with chnls. 41-44, 5 and 10 Kc. jump, channel and a half on the clarifier, audio and transmit stage rework, also the receive section acts like it has a preamp, the last 2 that came up for sale were a 148 and Grant XL and each one sold at $300.00. My Grant XL is one of maybe 10 that doesn't have the 10Kc. jump. Mr. Cole didn't do many Grant LTs as his condition was real bad and in and out of the hospital the last 2 years of his life.
73, Carl CEF-357 |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 3239
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 1:34 pm: |
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Carl,
Sorry I thought I mentioned it to you the other night when we talked.
I will not be on Echo Link for awhile or the Forum much today.
Was mowing mothers yard and a neighbors Pit Bull attakced me and tore the daylights out of my left leg & knee.
Luckly I had my steel brace on as its teeth got caught in it and I beat the daylights out of it to get it to let go.
going to lay down and see what happens later.
catch everyone later.
lon |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 190
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 2:46 pm: |
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Lon, Sorry to hear about your run in with the dog, those kind of dogs by law are required not to be let run loose.
73, Carl CEF-357 |
Sanddiegoduner
Junior Member
Username: Sanddiegoduner
Post Number: 16
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 4:01 pm: |
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Ouch!!! [b]Hope you get healed up fast Lon.[/b] Those dogs should never be allowed to walk around without something restraining it. Out here in California there is a big problem with those dogs. Everyone always says they are sweet dogs until it turns on the owner. |
Bob_p
Intermediate Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 101
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 6:35 pm: |
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Really Lon hope you heal fast and there are no residual problems. Up here in Big Bear the pit bull is the dog of choice and everyone wants to let them run around the streets uncontrolled. But the law has really been cracking down on them so hopefully it will get under control before something like that happens here.
Good luck
Bob |
Tech548
Moderator
Username: Tech548
Post Number: 208
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2004 - 4:22 am: |
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I can smell a lawsuit from way out here in the flatlands Lonnie.
Gee, if it aint one thing, it's another. I'm beginning to think that it may be dangerous for anyone to hang around you and Shirley.
Jeff |
