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Magnum Orlando
| | Posted on Friday, July 13, 2001 - 11:08 pm: | 
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I feel the company EEI AKA Exportradios.com is practicing misleading sales tactics. The company advertises the Silver Streak 250 amplifier as a 250 watt amplifier that performs into the 270 watt range. For $149.00 I jumped on it. The amp was short lived and quickly failed. I took it to an engineer who quickly advised me that the Silver Streak was a 100 watt amp on its best day. I was shown the dual SD-1446 finals and was encouraged to research their performance capabilities. Several companies confirmed that the dual SD-1446 finals in the Silver Streak perform at 50 watts each (100 watts). EEI assured me that all the other companies were wrong and had 1965 educations. EEI claimed that new technology made the SD-1446 finals perform at 180 watts each. IS THIS TRUE? They also casually added that it was 250 watts PEP (an acronym conveniently not on the web page). A kind of "OOOH, its 250 PEP not RMS" (which is VERY questionable sales behavior). I have since learned that PEP (Peak Envelope Power) is quite different than RMS. EEI wants you to think the PEP output is actually the RMS output, which is why the acronyms are in none of the amp adds. RMS reflects the true power rating of an amplifier. I had the finals replaced with MRF-455 finals which are rated at 100 watt performance. So the same amp, with upgraded finals, still only produces 200 watts RMS. This was personally confirmed with a DOSY meter as the radio was keyed in my vehicle on not on some EEI lab 17 volt powersource. This makes me question the output claims of some of the X-Force amps on the EEI, which they quickly encourage me to buy. I dont think so EEI.
Please tell me if EEI is misleading the public. |
Tech181
| | Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 12:19 am: |
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Magnum Orlando,
I am interested in where you found the specs on the SD1446 transistors. Can't find ANY listing for that particular component. The most reasonable match I came across was the 2SD1446, which has a 40W output. The MRF455 transistors, from what I found, are only rated at 60 watts.
I am not going to get into whether on not anyone practices misleading advertising. It's in my opinion, a conflict of interest to do it here. We don't want to turn our forum into a p***ing match between other resellers.
At any rate, I encourage anyone going to buy an amplifier to check out the rated output of each transistor by reading the specs from the manufacturer of that particular part. NOT by what's painted on the the outside of the amp, or by what it says in an ad.
You can more than likely get 125% out of the transistor than its rated output, but thats about IT!
You may be able to get the power they claim, but will that piece of equipment last through your next QSO, or for any length of time? Probably not. Poof!
Steve
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david
| | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2001 - 11:37 pm: |
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magnum orlando, email me at dnpaul@shout.net and I'll give you a couple of links where you can read ALL about it! I'm think you'll be glad you did!
I would post the links, but I don't want to be rude to our kind hosts here, lol. |
vernonott
| | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2001 - 9:31 pm: |
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In my opinion - YES !You have now been burnt and cheated by some of the most resourceful crooks ever to run a business.File a complaint with the BBB of east Texas,take your losses & stay the devil away from these guys. |
Magnum Orlando
| | Posted on Monday, July 16, 2001 - 4:43 pm: |
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Thanks for the responses. I have since met some wonderful people who have assisted me in educating myself and purchasing equipment that performs in the manner advertised. This post was not intended to generate a pi**ing match between resellers. I just hope that I save one person from same experience. Judging by the responses, I see that I am not alone in my opinion of certain sales tactics. As for the performance capabilities of the SD1446 finals, I checked several electronics flyers for radio equipment. The performance levels were rated between 50-70 watts RMS. Thanks to all for your responses. |
NorthStar
| | Posted on Monday, July 16, 2001 - 2:33 pm: |
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These amps do have 2 2SD1446's they are rated at 70W each I have seen these amps do over 200+ in a 14volt enviroment and at 15volt seen 225 watts They are based on a decent design.There bias scheme i |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Monday, July 16, 2001 - 10:29 am: |
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if you read the bbb report for eei you won;t be surprised......less than satisfactory
there is a link posted in another thread to the bbb report |
707
| | Posted on Monday, July 16, 2001 - 2:57 am: |
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I had a Silver Streak once. It burned up, but not before melting the carpet under my car seat. |
bullet/151 southern Indiana
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 4:32 am: |
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i agree with tech181 and vernonott.
EEI in a nut shell is a very misleading company
you can read it on thier web site.its full of bull ship thats just not true.60+watts from 2950's
with stock finals and the list goes on!
they pray on peoples ignorance of techinical knowlege of radio equipment its the main stay of thier bussiness! those that knew better were kicked off thier forum as a lot of us were.
its no big deal since all i wanted to to was spread the word that they were full of ship anyway! it closed now so people like us that know better cant warn those that dont.good move eei
cover thyn ass! because word is out on your
shaddy two bit operation your so proud of!
and any tech at eei if your reading this come on up here to southern indiana and ill show you on a
real watt meter what a 2950 and a 2950dx will do on a BIRD,struthers,dosey tc4002 and it aint no 60 watts brother!my 2950 with dual MRF 497's wont do that wattage! get off the halusnagenics. |
Metrocat
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 12:18 am: |
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Thank god I found Copper, I found EEI first but never found their forum, then came Copper and this forum. I am now the proud owner of a Voyage VR9000 and my only regrets are that I did'nt spend more money and get one of the big boys. Oh well, maybe I'll pass the VR on to one of my buddies for 120.00 and go for a big boy.
Metrocat |
vernonott
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 9:13 pm: |
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Exactly what do you mean by big boy? The VR 9000 will compete in sound quality and distance with almost every radio I own (ie.) Galaxy 77,Galaxy 88,Galaxy 99,Connex 4400HP.The only other radio I run has a built in amp and it would not be fair to the comparison.You now own a top quality radio and in my humble opinion it would make absolutly no sense to sell it , but the retailers really love guys like you and your purchases do keep the good old U.S.A. economy rolling.73's |
Magnum Orlando
| | Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 8:46 pm: |
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WOW, I am so glad I met my favorite Copper affiliate. It seems I have fallen into a truthful and knowledgable crowd. I am also well on my way to purchasing my Galaxy 99. THANKS COPPER!! Maybe the infamous Texas company has really done me a favor. You all are some wonderful folks!! PS - Bullet 151 - that 2950 is one rockin piece of equipment. |
elpasogunslinger
| | Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 10:43 pm: |
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orlando, stick with copper or one of the other retailers.have had great luck with most.stay away from eei. got burned by them soooo badly.wont go into details.....trust me they are bad news.
good luck,good dxing!
elpasogunslinger |
mrclean645
| | Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2001 - 10:01 pm: |
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I wish I had found this forum early I bought A Silver Streak 250 it was d.o.a I sent it back They sent it back to me and told me it was doing 260 watts on there bench however I wanted it to work on my radio. But it still does not. Mrclean-645 West Texas |
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