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Radioreddz
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i know often it is said height is might, but is there such a thing as being between wave lenghts. i understand 36' is the first wave length. what is the next would it be 72' and if you were in between would it harm your signal out put with ground waveing.can you actualy be out of wave length with antenna height.can you be too heigh and what are the actual wave lenght heights.
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Bruce
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Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

DEPENDS .....

If you on say 440 mhz you only have to be 24 inches ( one wavelengh ) up and your at a good height.

HOWEVER if you get a mile you'll be doing good.
Now raise that antenna to 2400 foot and you'll talk 100 miles.

Same on CB only a good height would be about 35 foot ( again one wave ) ..... and anything above that is going to increase range ....
On 6 since 66
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Kabar
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Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don`t muddy up your brain worrying about wavelenghts.
You can never be too high.
Put it up as high as you can for maximum range.
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Captian_radio
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Post Number: 272
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 3:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The higher the antenna the lower the radiation angle
lower angle means better skip condx,so an antenna 72 feet high will work better for long skip such as Europe, lower height will often work better for short skip such as E skip which is usually of a higher angle of radiation.The bottom line is make the best with what you have and hope for better
Bob CEF451/VE1CZ
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Hyperno_1979
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Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 5:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm no antenna expert but this was said to me years ago and is so basic it's ridiculous.
HEIGHT IS MIGHT
By getting your antenna up as high as you can you move the horizon further away. Therefore you should be able to cover a greater area.
The laws of physics are NOT written in stone. Sometimes things work that defy the laws...enjoy it if it does.
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Mtn_man_754
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone know of an antenna that gets out better than the antron 99 and has more gain? excluding beams
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Train_man
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Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 8:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A beam.

Move along. Nothing to see here.........
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Streaky
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Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 9:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Read up on the Imax 2000 test results it will give you some more information
Streaky
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Train_man
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Registered: 10-2007


Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry I missed the last part of that sentance.
The Maco V58 or 5000 will outperform the A99 and Imax 2000.

Move along. Nothing to see here.........
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Airplane1
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Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 7:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maco 5/8 .......... Yea!
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Tech808
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Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 8:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mtn_man_754,

The A-99 is a 1/2 wave over 1/4 wave antenna, the MACO 5/8 and V-5000 are 5/8 wave antennas and the IMAX 2000 is a .64 wave antenna.

For more information CLICK HERE >Imax 2000 Exposed
by: Tech833

And for even more information go here:

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» Imax 2000 Exposed Base Antenna
» Discussion


Hope this help's,

Lon~Tech808
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Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Train_man
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Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 2:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lon, the A99 is a 1/2 wave and the Maco V58, V5000
and the Imax are all 5/8 wave ants.

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Tech808
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Post Number: 14957
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 8:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Train_man,

My mistake for typing too fast yesterday, the Solarcon / Antron 99 is a 1/2 wave over 1/4 wave antenna.

The MACO V-5/8 and MACO V-5000 are 5/8 wave antennas.

The Solorcon IMAX 2000 advertised as a 5/8 wave antenna is actually a .64 wave antenna.

I corrected my post above from yesterday also.
Lon~Tech808
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Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Marconi
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Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Copper's and Maco both indicate that the V 5/8 is a 5/8 wave high gain antenna. Even the model name gives us a clue as to the manufacturer's claim.

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