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Danusee
Member
Username: Danusee
Post Number: 64
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 9:50 am: | 
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(1). The Maco wins hands down on price.
(2). On craftsmanship, I hear the Son-of-a-Gunn is very well made. I have never seen the V5000 only the V58. What part of the V5000 is better made than the V58?
(3). On performance, which would perform the best, the Maco with the tuning ring or the Son-of-a-Gunn with the gamma match?
I know no one with a gamma match omni? Maybe you have or can provide theory. Thanks. |
Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 3754
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 10:42 am: |
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1. YUP
2.v5000 just uses different coax connector & wire to handle 5kw vs 1kw. then, see #1 again-my v5/8 usually sees less then 150 watts, but, years ago i replaced the SO239 with a silver-teflon amphnenol version, along with a heavier piece of wire. never put 5kw through, but a whole bunch more then 1kw never burnt anything. then, see #1 again-my v5/8 has been up for 20 years. i am 1/4 mile from the atlantic ocean, it has seen 1 hurricane, along with nor'easter winds STRONGER then that hurricane, blizzards, ice storms, crashing trees, etc etc & while it has been knocked down, bent & straightened several times, it still stands proudly on my roof, pointing in several directions it shouldn't, but it SCREAMS. again, from 2-150 watts, it talks DX ALMOST whenever i WANT, AM & SSB on 11m as well as 10m! and, locally, i can hear as good if not better then anybody around me.
3.based on jo gunns claim that the son-of-a-gun is 26' tall, i'm not sure WHAT that makes it, since 5/8 wave is 22'(more jo gunn exaggeration??). but, since we all know 5/8 is 5/8 is 5/8, EVEN if the 'gunn was more efficiently fed then the maco, there wouldn't be enough increase to ever notice. so why spend any more money?
MACO MACO MACO MACO MACO MACO |
Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 907
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 4:22 pm: |
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i agree with patzerozero.however id think that
with the gamma match the son-of-a.gun would/might
tune slightly better.this is just my opion
even if this were to be true its still over priced.even though it is very well built.
my 2 cents
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 4456
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 6:42 pm: |
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I would rather use a beta match but from what i have heard the ring match is not as good as a gama ...... other wise a 5/8 wave is a 5/8 wave .....
On 6 since 66
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Thrustmore
New member
Username: Thrustmore
Post Number: 3
Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 3:30 pm: |
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I have bought and sitting in the box waiting for the weather to break is the latest son of a gunn antenna.Will carfully measure the verticle length and just for fun will mount it about 30' from a max 2000 both at 36' to the bottom of the antenna.Will do unprofessional comparison.All without the aid of any test equipment.Will post results as they come in.Thanks Copper and members. |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 4629
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 10:46 pm: |
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Hummm ..... good basic idea but flawed .....
EVEN with just your ear as a test station to make a comparison BOTH antennas must be in the exact same spot.
That aside it will still be interesting to see what you get. My guess is you will see little change.
Bruce
144.210, 147.550 AND ....
On 6 since 66
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Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 2138
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 12:14 pm: |
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Bruce is right. Antennas need to be in the exact same spot for best results. Personally found that out to be true. But, experiment away!
RoadWarrior
CEF 375
Tyrone, PA 16686 |
Airplane1
Senior Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 1035
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 29, 2008 - 7:22 am: |
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My Maco 5/8 is up since anout 2004 and going strong. I did not have any problems tuneing it and it is a 1.1 - 1.2 across the whole band and real good on ten too. In fact I will be buying another soon just for spare even if I prob. wont need it any time soon.
For the price I dont think you can beat them. |
Bob1
New member
Username: Bob1
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 4:44 pm: |
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I had maco v up for about two weeks,not made very good,now have 10k interceptor.really great ant.and made very strong,have had many ant up over the years.would say 10k over all is the best, cost more but you get what you pay for. |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 4641
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 6:21 am: |
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2 Things here .......
(1) How well is it made.
(2) How well does it work.
MACO from what I understand had been bought out by GISHMACHY ..... So construction may change just due to that fact.
PERSONLY I would like to see a REAL range test I'm willing to bet you will not see much change from MACO to any other antenna.
Bruce
On 6 since 66
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Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 4178
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 4:02 pm: |
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a friend in CT, 60+ miles away, has an imax 2k & i10k up. he says there is a difference in noise heard-aluminum is noticeably quieter. as for rcv & xmit, neither is a clear cut better performer all the time. even when i talk to him, if i can't hear him on one, i can't hear him on the other, and when it is quiet, MAYBE there is a slight difference with the i10k.
another friend is less then 10 miles west of me-closer to NJ. his i10k is twice the height of my maco. he generally runs 100 watts on either of a couple newer yaesu's. on LSB 38 with my ar3500, a few regulars in PA & NJ notice LITTLE IF ANY DIFFERENCE in either of our signals, and there are times i hear them guys better then he does. as for dx....he usually needs to fire up his ameritron to get 'past' me. 3 years of wondering & we STILL don't know why that happens.
which is built HEAVIER? no doubt the i10k. does that mean it'll last longer? my maco has proven that is not neccessarily a guarantee. it originally cost me less then $60 shipped, so that is an awesome investment. today it'd probably be closer to $100 shipped....still 3 maco's vs 1 i10k. if i lived somewhere with a harsher climate then here, it might make sense. still, he has the $$ & is happy, so i guess it works. that is all that counts.
as for gizmotchy-built v5/8's? i've emailed them several times with questions since THEY announced it. they have NEVER responded. a GREAT way to sell things! |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 4642
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 10:28 pm: |
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Fiberglass has static discharge problems which is why i use a RINGO RANGER on both 2 and 220 mhz
On 6 since 66
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Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 2156
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 6:34 pm: |
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The Maco 5/8 and I-10k outperform an Imax 2000. Here in my location anyhow.
Have tested all of these antennas in exact same location. As for DX talking, they all do really good.
RoadWarrior
CEF 375
Tyrone, Pa 16686 |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 2157
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 7:04 pm: |
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We just had 2 local (10-15 miles away) cbers change from using Imax 2000's to Maco 5/8 antennas. They live high up on the mountain and their Imaxs got shreaded by ice and winds. A bunch of us helped install these Maco 5/8s and we got great SWR matches on both. Now to see if they hold up. Pat has seemed to have good luck.
RoadWarrior
CEF 375
Tyrone, Pa 16686 |
Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1322
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 9:07 pm: |
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was it from the storms we had last weekend
that messed up the imax
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 2159
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 10:16 pm: |
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The one guy it happened last winter. The other guy it happened in Feburary. No, not last weekends storms. When we got up their the ice was so thick that it was bending the Imax like a prezel. A couple days later after ice melted he noticed the damage. He has a 6 element Jo-gunn beam mounted verticle and the ice didn't damage it at all. Anyhow, he purchased a Maco 5/8 and liked it very much, so, the other guy decided to get one also.
RoadWarrior
CEF 375
Tyrone, Pa 16686 |
