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Capt_hook
Intermediate Member Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 298 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 7:58 am: |
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I would like to know which one would be the better of the two.oh yea at the same hight |
Tech833
Moderator Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1603 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 11:31 am: |
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Maco. |
Dale
Advanced Member Username: Dale
Post Number: 623 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 7:22 pm: |
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definately maco dale/cef426/ae953 |
Patzerozero
Senior Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 3498 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 9:22 pm: |
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maco |
Danusee
Member Username: Danusee
Post Number: 63 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:43 pm: |
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Did you say Maco was a 5/8? I think it is a V58. Measure the section from where the coax ties in to the top and I believe it just slightly longer than 1/2 but not by much. It will beat the a99. I put a longer metal gpk on the a99 & a metal top section on the a99. Transmit now is right close to the Maco. The receive is slightly behind. The Maco hears the pin drop! |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 982 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 9:30 pm: |
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There is a slight detected increase in transmit and receive on the Maco because it is a real groundplane. No offense to any other antennas intended. But for what little bit you lose on the Antron 99, you gain a much broader banded antenna than the Maco. It's a trade off. Mikefromms |
Ronin
Member Username: Ronin
Post Number: 56 Registered: 8-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 7:42 am: |
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All good information! I was wondering the same things myself. I have a Maco V58 in the box waiting for some spring weather here. The Maco will replace my A-99 and I am hoping for some improvement. I will post my findings when I get the Maco up and make some comparisons. Jim CEF-813 K3ZOR OT-235
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Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 983 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 9:14 pm: |
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I beleive you will notice a difference in your ears. Write down what other base stations put on your s-unit meter and compare. Be sure everything is the same except your antenna. Mikefromms |
Maxgain
New member Username: Maxgain
Post Number: 4 Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 7:18 pm: |
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5/8 single element vertical always beats a half wave single element vertical. |
Dale
Advanced Member Username: Dale
Post Number: 688 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 8:26 pm: |
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recieve should be quieter dale/a.k.a.hotrod cef426 cvc#64
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Oldpirate
Intermediate Member Username: Oldpirate
Post Number: 128 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 6:50 pm: |
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The Maco would be my choice and that is after using an A99 |
Dale
Advanced Member Username: Dale
Post Number: 720 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 8:33 pm: |
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sounds like maco wins hands down dale/a.k.a.hotrod cef426 cvc#64
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Revpo
Intermediate Member Username: Revpo
Post Number: 168 Registered: 7-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 8:43 pm: |
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MACO I have one and they are great, and stand up against high winds..excess 70 mph a few days ago, still standing tall revpo/CEF795/doctor/Indiana 73 REVPO/DOCTOR/CEF 795 Wavin a hand from the cornfields of INDIANA
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Dx_freak
New member Username: Dx_freak
Post Number: 3 Registered: 2-2007
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 10:35 am: |
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I run a maco 5/8 ground plain purchased form copper and I have done side by side comparisons with the a/99. As far as operating and ease of instillation, a/99 is easier to assemble and put up. As for operation, maco 5/8 is best on receive and transmit. Bar none, go with the maco! Degree of assembly for 5/8 maco far exceeds operation of a99. If I were to go with any of the fiberglass base antennas, id go with the Imax 2000. I have done side by side comparisons with the Imax 2000 and the maco 5/8 also, little difference as far as receive, but the transmit of the maco 5/8 was a bit better that the I max 2000 also. Just a little info I have personally achieved. Dx_freak Richey CEF 885 DX freak I can only do the best I can with what I got.
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Airplane1
Senior Member Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 1051 Registered: 5-2004
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 7:30 am: |
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Ronin, Just wondering if you ever got the maco up and what your findings are. did it make a big difference? |
Applejack
Intermediate Member Username: Applejack
Post Number: 320 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 1:01 pm: |
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have had a maco up on house at 10' above roof for 1 year now and think its great, would like to have another above tv antenna that is on 6 sections of tower. there may not be any skip now but i can tx and rx all over, they must really be getting popular because they have gone from about $73.00 to $100.00 in just over a year. oh well, if you wanna play you gotta pay.....aj cef 174 central ohio |
Canal_digger
Junior Member Username: Canal_digger
Post Number: 45 Registered: 1-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 3:27 pm: |
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1) 5/8 wave (Maco) will usually out-perform a 1/2 wave (A99) 2) Aluminum (Maco) is more hardy in bad weather (High winds, ice, etc.) 3) Height advantage to Maco 21' vs 17.5' 4) Ground Plane (3) advantage to Maco for better signal/angle You get what you pay for these days. Now, if you must get an easy to set-up antenna similar to A-99 and don't want to spend over $125, w/ excellent performance, Imax is my favorite. See a pattern here? |
Bruce
Senior Member Username: Bruce
Post Number: 4880 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 2:12 pm: |
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The A-99 at best is not a very good 1/2 wave and radial kits dont work well on a 1/2 wave anyway. I run a 12AVQ with a dozen radials cut for 3 bands It works just fine ..... On 6 since 66
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Applejack
Intermediate Member Username: Applejack
Post Number: 324 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 11:02 pm: |
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well while im in here let me ask this; what is the minimum distance above a tv antenna that you can mount a v58 and not interfere with standing wave or performance. not worried about interferring with the tv. next question, what is the minimum distance above a 3 element horizontal beam to not interfere with the beam or the v58? ...aj cef 174 central ohio |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 16327 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 11:28 pm: |
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Applejack, Check out the picture's of Dindin / Tech291's antenna's in the Member's Picture area. Before moving my IMAX 2000 to a separate tower I had it mounted 5' above my flat side beam's. Lon~Tech808 CEF#0808/HAM#001/CVC#0002 Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Applejack
Intermediate Member Username: Applejack
Post Number: 326 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 12:49 am: |
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i saw dindin's pictures before, and again before coming here and it wasnt clear, he has a coupler for smaller mast pipe for v5/8 3feet long, but how much distance is between the beam and the coupler?...aj |
Applejack
Intermediate Member Username: Applejack
Post Number: 327 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 12:55 am: |
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went to dindin's pics again and reread text, 43'agl to beam and 53'agl to 5/8. so, its 10' above the beam,but what is the minimum i can use?..aj |
Johhn
Intermediate Member Username: Johhn
Post Number: 160 Registered: 8-2007
| Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 1:10 pm: |
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Dec 28, 08 Well man, I hear all the little people out there. The Maco can do 65 Miles on A.M. Still the Best choise for me.. johhn M. |
Airplane1
Senior Member Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 1151 Registered: 5-2004
| Posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 - 7:16 am: |
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From experience, I had a A99 and mounted it at the same place on same mast as my Maco 5/8 was on to give it a try. The maco ran rings around the A99 on receive and transmit. I used it for about a month and evey one I talk to on reg. basis said I droped 2-3 s units. I know it will perform different at different locations but I would asume every one would see about the same. AP |
Applejack
Intermediate Member Username: Applejack
Post Number: 340 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 9:00 pm: |
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just put up another 5/8 today. left the ground radials off and mounted it just inches above horizontal 103c. standing wave was the same as when checked on tuning pole as when above beam with no radials. tonite i am on air testing it. you dont need an amplifier, you need a BIGGER ANTENNA
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