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Poppathree
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 1:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey has anybody seen the movie yet, I heard they're on the CB in the film....Did they get it right or not? My wife doesn't want to see it anyway, so I'll rent the dvd when it's out, I guess.......73....Lee
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Hibuckhobby
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 9:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes, they use CB in the movie...just like the original show did. Other than that, the original show was FAR better than this movie.
IMHO...
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Tech833
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As a 'Duke-a-holic' myself, Mrs. 833 and I went to opening night. We wore our orange '01' shirts and everything. We almost walked out.

First of all, they used the Lord's name in vain 11 times. That is an abomination. The foul language flowed like moonshine. Uncle Jesse (Willie Nelson) smokes pot. The sex scenes (we have come to expect from Hollywood) were a bit much. On the other hand, both Mrs. 833 and I thought Jessica Simpson did a GREAT job playing Daisy. She was not sleazy at all, despite what we expected. The story did not follow the TV series at all. They went out on their own, but it was good, and you could easily follow it.

The driving was awesome. The acting was a C+ at best. The language was an F. Almost literally. Unless they come out with a cleaned up version, we will NOT be buying the DVD. Coming from someone who is actually building a General Lee replica, that says a lot.

Oh, the General Lee used a Cobra 148 GTL Sound Tracker radio. The antenna on the trunk was VHF though. They also used FRS radios.
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Chad
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So it would not be advised to go see it with a 4 yr old..... Bummer... May have to go with the guys :-(
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Grumpy
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 3:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks tech 833 you are rite on target thanks for speaking up for what is rite!!!!!
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Hollowpoint445
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 4:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's too bad that they went over the top with the language, but "Moonrunners" (the movie the series was based on) was rated PG and used adult language too. It's been a long time since I've seen it, but it seems that the new movie is more like the old movie than the series.

I don't blame them for making it that way because they've got to appeal to a broad audience - many of whom have never seen the series.

If you don't like strong language I suggest you avoid the movie "The Aristocrats." I can't wait to see that one.
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Saddletramp025
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 9:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

IMHO, Hollywood totally trashed what could and should have been a great movie. No Chad by all means Don't take a 4 year old to see it.
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Chad
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I talked to a friend and said it is funny. But again not advised for the impressionable younger kids.

I just have to see "stiffler" play the role. I think he's a funny guy!

I'm going in open minded, it's been a long time since I've seen the TV version, like.. oh... since it was cancelled.

Chad
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Tech833
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Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The language would be palletable, if not for using God;s name in vain. THAT was the part that has me all bent out of shape. WHY does Hollywood have to do this? The movie would have been fine for adults had it not been for the use of the Lord's name in swearing.

Don't take kids, and don't take anyone who is a true Christian.
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Mikefromms
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Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 5:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amen. Thx for warning us. I thought it would be stupid anyway.

Mikefromms
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Hollowpoint445
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Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 7:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why does Hollywood have people smoke, drink, make love, or do anything else in a movie? Because they're reflections of life to some extent, and these things happen.

The movie is about a family of moonshiners. They're obviously on the outer edge of society and I don't think profanity is out of line with the story. I would expect it in a movie of this genre.

As I'm not religious I always wonder why this bothers folks who are. The words obviously don't mean the same to you as they do to the folks who use them, so why get upset by it?
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Kennjen
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Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 8:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

833:

They had FRS back then ? Man, I don't remember that at all. But then I was only low teens back then.

BTW good luck on your General Lee replica. Send us a link or two to the pic of it, if you got it. I'd be interestead in seein' it.

: )
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Sg569
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech833,

Simple, HOLLYWOOD is VERY liberal, they don't really care what the RIGHT wing wants; all they really care about is thier agendas. They don't want to hear about GOD, the Devil, or the fact that WE are ALL sinners. YES, I know that this kinda covers all of Hwood, and that not all of the people there are liberal schmucks. I know that there are good God fearing people in Hwood; but ya know by looking at the movies that keep coming out of there ya wouldn't know it.

I'll shut up now, Thanks for letting me rant.
Walter/ sg569
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Tech833
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HP445- The religious folks get bent out of shape about that particular thing because one of our 'laws' (A.K.A. 10 commandments) says that using the Lord's name in vain is strictly forbidden, and it is an abomination. It is the same as society's law that says you cannot kill people you don't like. That is as much an abomination to societal law as using the Lord's name in vain is to religious law. Does that make sense? It's difficult to explain. Just know that out of the 10 laws that form the foundation of biblical rules and laws, the Lord's name in vain is a biggie. I hope I explained it O.K. Anyone else have a way to explain this better?

Also, none of the people I hang with or work with use foul language. It is NOT 'normal' to use or hear foul language in my everyday life. I suppose that largely depends on the crowd you hang out with. My 'crowd' does not curse, so it is very shocking to me to hear SO much in a movie. If your crowd uses curse words a lot, the movie might seem a little tame to you. If you spent all your time in your child's classroom, then went to a rough bar afterwards, you might be more aware of how bad the bar language is than if you hung at the bar all the time. I know, bad example, just trying to make the point as best I am able.

Kennjen- The movie is set in today's time. FRS radios 'fit'. The part I really did not get is the CB radio under the dash and the VHF antenna on the truck lid. That makes no sense. I remember in the TV show when they would be talking on a base station, sometimes (depending on the radio) you could see the SWR light flashing when they talked (they used SSB to get more meter and light action for the show). Obviously, there was no antenna hooked up!

Sg569- Yes, we all know that very well. The love of money and the pressure to appeal to a mass audience drives most of what we see. Unfortunately, we are 'over the hill' when it comes to target demographics now. Welcome to being 'too old' to 'get it'!
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Hollowpoint445
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 2:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought the 10 Commandments were how you were supposed to live your life, not how you expect others who may not have your beliefs to live their lives?

Have you considered that the folks you work with use cleaner language around you because they know of your beliefs? I know I clean up my language when I'm around someone I know doesn't care for profanity or when I meet someone new. A couple of months after I started a new job someone asked me a question about religion and I had to tell them that I wasn't a religious person so I didn't know the answer. I asked them why they thought I was, and they told me that they hadn't heard me use any profanity or make any off color comments, so they thought I was religious. I didn't intentionally behave that way, I guess I just subconsiously behave that way around folks I don't know well.
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1861
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 9:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

THANKS 833 , I DIDN,T THINK I WANTED TO SEE THE MOVIE , NOW I AM POSITIVE . USING THE LORDS NAME IN VAIN TALKING TO ME WOULD BE EVEN WORSE THAN CALLING MY MOTHER A --- TO ME . NEITHER WOULD BE CONDUCIVE TO A FRIENDLY RELATIONSHIP . PERIOD
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Tech833
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Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 1:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hollowpoint445 wrote: "I thought the 10 Commandments were how you were supposed to live your life, not how you expect others who may not have your beliefs to live their lives? "

It's not how you expect others to live their lives, so much as it is something you have to live yourself, and stay clear of during the course of your life. Hearing it is as objectionable as using it yourself. It is an abomination, which is to be detestable to us. Something detestible is to be avoided, even if it means movies or ex-friends.

Similar with the commandment about coveting your neighbor's wife. Let's say your friend is coveting another man's wife. It is our responsibility to not only steer clear of the action ourselves, but to also recognise the flaw in that friend's life and distance ourselves from him until he corrects his life and repents. That is as simple as I can describe it without getting outside the course of this forum.

Thanks for asking 445. I am glad you are so courteous to others! That is very refreshing. I have to ask... If you are able to 'clean up' you language at will, why not exercise that restraint at all times?
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Mikefromms
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Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll put it this way, the tv goes off when the language get rough and I don't talk to cbers' who use fould language. In fact, I told a skip station coming out of N.Y. the other that his station really sounds choice and if he'd stop using the F word and using God's name in vain more people would talk to him. Please clean it up. Christian or nonChristian (I am) cursing makes the user look ignorant. The Dukes of Hazard charactors certainly didn't need the addition of curse words to add to making them look ignorant!

Mikefromms
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Topten
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Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 2:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now we all know why Dolly Parton refused to be in the movie. Good for her! :-)
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Bluegrass
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Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 1:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hay ya'll got this all mixed up. The radio in the General Lee was a Cobra 29WXNWST and the antenna was NOT a VHF it was a Cobra HG-A1500 37 inch magnet mount antenna.Go to Cobra's web site www.cobraelectronics.com and see it for yourself.

And I do plan to see the movie because it looks like it's areally funny flim.
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Timeslice
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Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 4:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I must agree with Hollowpoint445's view,

I was of the understanding that "Religious" people were more 'forgiving' of sins, especially where 'non-believers' are concerned.

I'm sure God would not "recognise the flaw in that friend's life and distance ourselves from him until he corrects his life and repents" as Tech833 suggests.

I thought religious people were 'more' forgiving, given the fact they have 'seen the light'.. metaphorically speaking.

Maybe I'm wrong ????

Still wanna see the film and I bet Johnny Knoxville and 'Stiffler' are cool... as always.


Cheers,

Alex.
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HAM#146
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1861
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Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 6:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Bible tells us to seperate ourselves from evil , and non believers . God is the only one who can forgive sin , because all sin is against GOD . As for the blacfemey in the movie , it is just something some of us prefer not to subject ourself to - anyone who wants to , well , that is their business
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Hollowpoint445
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Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 3:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech833 - I've given your question some thought and came to the conclusion that it's just not a concern for me. They're just words and I use them as I see fit. Most of the time I don't, but when I wish to emphasize a point that I can't get through any other way I'll throw in a little colorful language. When used sparingly it has a greater effect and it does work.

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