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Vanillagorilla
Member
Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 64
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 11:41 am: | 
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Sorry for the "newb" question but as the skip keeps rolling in I hear more and more about this 11yr cycle. I been doing this on and off for a while but never got into shooting skip till recently. I should say "till I realized they could hear ME!"
Who can break down the basics on the cycle for me here? Where are we in it? Does it effect diff parts of the country at different times? OH! And WHY when it does happen that you can talk skip like its next door can you NOT talk as easy to a buddy 15mi away? Even if you find a quiet station the "S" units are down on someone who is usually "UP".
A simple tutoring would be great. I'd love to able to predict for myself in advance the best times to try to get out. Kinda the way I read the tides before knowing when to go fish..
Any teachers feel like breaking this down?
I've searched out a few web sites that show the cycle but they seem to be geared more towards the experienced DX'er....Hep me! I wanna learn. (wish I could get my kids to say that!..thank GOD schools out!...whew..made it again!)
Hank '905 |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 2896
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 12:15 pm: |
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We are about at the bottom that will happen in 2006. Our sun produses spots in 11 year cycles and the spots produse skip...... |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6187
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 12:21 pm: |
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Vanillagorilla,
CLICK on the Link Below to learn more. 
Sunspot Cycle Report
Or Look at the Bottom of the MAIN COPPER PAGE and it also has a Link you can click on.
[Products] [Forum] [Bargains] [Catalog-Free] [Email Deals] [Support] [Contact Us] [Policy] [Directions]
[Webmaster] [Sunspot Cycle Report]
Hope this help's,
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 984
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 12:44 am: |
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that doesn't mean there will be absolute ZERO skip, 905. just that in 2007 it'll be like it is today-spotty at best. between now & then it'll get even less. after '07 it'll get better.
get your ham ticket. 6 meter skip every spring & some each fall too. irregardless of sunspot cycle.
if i could just have the 6m radio on when the skips rollin' before the E season dies... |
Yankee
Advanced Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 696
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:06 am: |
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Hank, where you live in the north when the Northern Lights (aroa borealis) are showing you can do some strange long distance that will sound like someone is down in a cavern. When I lived 200 miles north of New York City I talked a lot of places you can't talk with skip conditions.
Yes, as we come to the end of the sun spot cycle in 2007, skip conditions will be all but dead and then it slowly starts up again with the next cycle. About 20-30 years ago 2 cycles before the one we are almost out of conditions were fantastic, it was world wide for a good share of that cycle. You didn't need a lot of power to talk all over Europe and the Pacific, as a matter of fact I did it with 12 watts stock power on sideband with a PDL-ll beam.
Carl CEF-357 |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 987
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 2:08 pm: |
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during arrl vhf contest a couple weekends back had aurora on 6 meters, SSB was DIFFICULT to understand at best, but it was the only dx during contest.
this past winter on 11 meters had 1 really STRONG instance of aurora skip. dx started to BOOM in from LESS THEN 100 miles! 20-30-40 db over S9 from stations in rhode island, boston, southern new hampshire & vermont. (DX that you NEVER get. 150 miles to poconos & upstate NY is usually closest DX heard. with occassional backscatter hearing those guys while talking 'normal' short skip 500+ miles.) then as aurora became more pronounced, the signals began their telltale wobble. not quite as bad as the 6 meter contest in june, but it was rough talking to some of them guys. reports of some of the most vivid northern lights shows were received from northern CT, MASS & the dx stations we were talking to in MN, WI, MI & ontario. light pollution here in the suburbs didn't allow any viewing-just interesting DX |
Vanillagorilla
Member
Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 66
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 6:09 pm: |
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Interesting info guys..thanks for your time!
Something new to study..maybe it'll keep my anxious fingers OUT of my radios a while.
Zero..I know nothing of HAM..I have a friend down the road who did HAM for years and we've talked about it...I'd like to look into it for the winter down time. A little confusing from the outside looking in though...2,6,12 meter..SHeesSH!
I don't even want to try to figure out whats what as far as tickets for each yet!...Baby steps ova hea. I'm still re-learning and re-inventing my CBself for now....hmmmmmmm next radio.....
95T...S9? 95T...S9? 95T...S9? 95T...S9? 95T...S9?
Thanks again for all your time~
Hank '905 |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 993
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 1:14 am: |
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95t??? PHOOOOOOOOOOOEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yankee
Advanced Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 709
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 2:43 am: |
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Hey Pat, Have you ever talked into my old neck of the woods? I lived 200 miles north of the city, Glens Falls 48 miles north of Albany. When I lived at home and had the PDL-ll in the air I talked to several people in the New York City area and a few on Long Island. This was like close to 30 years ago now. This was when I worked the Northern Lights conditions. Sideband 12 watts stock power.
Carl CEF-357 |
Funtimebob
Intermediate Member
Username: Funtimebob
Post Number: 168
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 1:08 pm: |
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Its like the 28 day cycle, Dont have to understand it,just learn to live with the consequences |
Vanillagorilla
Member
Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 75
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 6:58 pm: |
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Oh we're going to a BAD place now!
Hank '905 |
Hollowpoint445
Intermediate Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 482
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 6:37 am: |
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The moon is a bad place? |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 999
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 6:46 am: |
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don't know any full time sidebanders that far north, yankee. thunderhill base, chainsaw, lucky/lucky one, mostly AMers in the NYS thruway corridor thru peekskill up to albany. don't think there's any of the oldtime BIG SSB guys around here anymore, tony kw-12, the old ASB group, the nhf group, hf international, the 11w & 11x groups, tomcat & the old SSB group. other then this past winters aurora conditions, most of our dx has been farther north & west, rochester, utica, finger lakes. i've talked straight trip to albany, AM, but that was the 1st time i'd ever talked there on dx conditions of any type.
i remember you mentioning westhampton air force/air national guard base, i'm about 30 miles west of it(vanillagorilla is closer to it then me)
but i get a nice diagonal jump across long island sound, then the catskills stop the signal. |
