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Chad
Intermediate Member
Username: Chad
Post Number: 234
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:09 am: | 
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Forgive me for my ignorance but how is it that Spanish skip is soooo prevalent?
Are these people running super big power? Is there some kind of strange atmospheric ducting going on? Or are there just more Spanish speaking operators making chances better?
Chad
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Skilletlicker
Intermediate Member
Username: Skilletlicker
Post Number: 199
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:30 am: |
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i believe it is due to the unlimited power that they use
the skilletlicker
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Dd18
Junior Member
Username: Dd18
Post Number: 26
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:45 am: |
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Atmospherics.
No skip no signal.
The spaniards are all complaining bout them North Americans running huge power and wiping them off the band as well. What ever the Spanish are doing to you, I feel sure the combined might of CB America is making their radio lives way worse. |
Road_warrior
Intermediate Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 449
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 12:13 pm: |
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Personally, I wish i could speak Spanish.
As it would be nice to understand what
there saying and be able to communicate
with them. I have ran into some that
talk english also, all you have to do
is ask them.
JIM/ PA/ CEF 375 |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 462
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 12:23 pm: |
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A good share of spanish speaking DX is coming from high mountain areas, with that kind of elevation you don't need a lot of power, I would say that they are not running more power than state side stations, they just have the elevation in their favor. I just wish they would find another play ground other than running AM on channels 36-40, also need to remember that a lot of the spanish DX is right here in the states and not all to the south, remember that people to the south of the United States don't have the money for big radios like here in the states. |
392
Member
Username: 392
Post Number: 84
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 1:47 pm: |
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Well for one thing some of the cab companies use CB, especially the lower channels below channel 1, and they run 24/7 so when the conditions are right, that's all you will here. They could care less about bothering us.
Here where I am in South America, there is very little cb, some ham, but I can't even find a good radio shop to buy an antenna! |
Hotwire
Intermediate Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 255
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 2:46 pm: |
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Dd18 is right. They can hear us just as much as we hear them.I have a friend who knows Spanish well and has contacted many of them. More than you think are domestic. |
Racer_x
Intermediate Member
Username: Racer_x
Post Number: 260
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 5:54 pm: |
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Years ago I delivered pizza to a guy who ran a 5 element Yagi permanantly pointed south - no rotor. He said he used it to talk with his family that was still south of the border. I chatted with him on his omni a few times and it turns out that his family runs some old tube stuff that he thought was pretty powerful, but he didn't know for sure. He was running a Cobra AM base and a fairly mild tube amp.
There are a few more spanish speaking locals that I've chatted with from time to time. They operate on what we refer to as the "spanish channels." Once I was getting splatter from one of them and I contacted him while he was taking a break from calling CQ in spanish. He was trying to contact his friends back home too and was nice enough to cut his mic gain so he didn't splatter the entire band.
One things for sure - those latin guys like multi-tone roger beeps. |
Af579
Junior Member
Username: Af579
Post Number: 31
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:32 pm: |
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I often ask them to habla english and you would be suprised how many do. I have made several good contacts down there just by asking them to speak english. Give it a shot if you are into the dx! |
Mdiver
Intermediate Member
Username: Mdiver
Post Number: 248
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:17 pm: |
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Darnit sure would like to post to this ,,but I might be back later on this subject. My 2 cents might come up.
Steve -CEF-252 |
Hotwire
Intermediate Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 258
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 8:35 am: |
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No doubt. What is up with people and roger beeps? Before and after QSO. Man they gotta sit there for like 5 seconds before they can talk! |
Chad
Intermediate Member
Username: Chad
Post Number: 235
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 8:51 am: |
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I will certainly seek an english speaking contact. I took 2 years of Spanish but how good is that? Try being foreign and taking 2 years of ENGLISH to come to America and not understand a darn thing  BTW we speak American, not English!
Chad |
Racer_x
Intermediate Member
Username: Racer_x
Post Number: 271
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 6:17 pm: |
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Well, we speak the American dialect of English. If you've done any traveling I'm sure you've noticed there are different dialects throughout the USA too. There are also other dialects of English like Australian, British, New Zealand, South African, etc, etc.
Hotwire - aren't roger beeps fun? Occasionally on our local SSB frequency we'll have what we call an AM day when we run echo, roger beeps, and key beeps. It really freaks some of the regulars out when they first hit the frequency for the day, but we all have fun. We even get curious AMers asking what's the deal when they're scanning the band. |
Kid_vicious
Intermediate Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 356
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 10:20 pm: |
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maybe we could find a sort of diplomat on this site. someone that speaks very fluent spanish.
we could all help find the internet sites that the south american DX'ers use, and have our diplomat kindly ask them to stop using ch.37, 38, and 39 for AM. tell them that we'll agree to stay off of certain AM channels so as to give them more room. maybe we could trade 30-35 for 36-39. i know it seems like a pipe dream, but wouldnt it be cool to have a forum dedicated to international DX that would automatically translate posts into any language that you so choose. i think it would work!
matt |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 467
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 12:59 am: |
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Well, it seems to me that the spanish speaking operators have taken over the whole 11 meter band, from the top of the 12 meter band to 27.999.0 MHz, and yes sometimes into the 10 meter band and above 29.700.0 MHz, most of the time all you can hear lately is spanish DX on every frequency including the zero frequencies. Some of the people seem to love the alfa channels and channel 9. A lot of the time most every day, all day long you can hear the same spanish speaking woman on channel 37 AM, with that long drawn out sound every time she keys up. |
Chad
Intermediate Member
Username: Chad
Post Number: 237
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:21 am: |
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I guess Mexico and others using CH9 proves that USA is stomping on them. They went for a quiet channel!
I'm all for international DX, I don't hear much on 38LSB, maybe I'm lucky. Sunday nets are tough though and I wonder sometimes how I can hear them so well but others that are closer are harder to bring out, even the guys I know are running a serious station.
What I do think is cool is that somehow it seems that the Spanish speaking have found a way it make it a RELIABLE form of communication as I hear the same people rag chewing for hours on end day in and day out. I can only manage reliable contact on the local channel which seems to have a diameter of 75 miles, sometimes we do have to relay info due to conditions and state of our stations (all of us are always tinkering.)
By reliable I don't mean Superbowl either. They are hitting one channel and are having peaceful conversations from what I can pick out and translate with my limited skills.
Although I took Spanish in school I feel the best way to learn a foreign language is to jump in. In two years of Spanish I came no where close to the understanding that I did with portugese when I had a Brazillian exchange roomate for one semester, I was actually fluent for a while Unlike riding a bicycle speaking foreign language seems to take regular practice or you will loose it. My father is a German immigrant and has pretty much lost the ability to converse in German, although I feel if he spent some time there he would pick it back up quite easily.
For now it's CQ Habla Englsih? May be able to make some new contacts. Will post them here, Lets get some more members from other countries!!!!!
Chad |
Hotwire
Intermediate Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 265
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:46 am: |
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You would be talking about the Spanish woman who says the same thing over and over again? Is she calling CQ?
Racer X, I would love to hear you guys do that on 38lsb here in Indiana. I think the old farts that run everyday would have a heart attack. This one guy gets all bent out of shape over the smallest beep or echo. Oh! and dont dare be off 1 kc! Whats up with that!! I attempted to join the ********* ******* club but OOOOOOOO NOOOOOOO! My radio as he claimed was off 3 kilocycles. We cant have that he said, you gotta get that fixed. Well I checked and all was well and I suggested he have his radio inspected and matched atomically. MISTAKE!!!! I'm branded now as somebody who should stay on AM. So I leave 38 to those guys. They wont let me talk DX 38LSB by blocking my ears whenever they know I'm there. I detect jealousy over performance issues I'm sure. Who needs em anyway? I'm happy with my copper callsign. Sorry guys I had to vent a little. Its been building up. |
Scrapiron63
Advanced Member
Username: Scrapiron63
Post Number: 814
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 11:52 am: |
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Hey Kid Vicious, here's a site that will translate different languages.
http://www.freetranslation.com/
Así que se divierte a mi amigo con usted trata en español.
It's kinda crazy though, you can translate say something in english to german, then translate it back to english, and it will be quite a bit different. Maybe thats why there's been some misunderstandings in our relations with other countries over the years, some words and phrases don't translate well.  |
Chad
Intermediate Member
Username: Chad
Post Number: 240
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 12:14 pm: |
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I've never had that problem on 38LSB and i know I have been off freq at times. Most are polite, unfortunately your local causes problems.
Chad
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Mdiver
Intermediate Member
Username: Mdiver
Post Number: 250
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:26 pm: |
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Some day we will have a translater built in or radios.
Scrapiron63 great website.
Question I have heard a spanish speaking woman for along time out there and she seems to be able to transmit on more than one channel at the same time is that possible ?? çan a radio be made to do that and recieve????
Also regarding 38lsb. HOTWIRE
I have the same problem out here (I HAVE 1 OF THOSE OLD TIMERS HERE two). Hotwire be cool and keep talking thats your Right. I no its hard if he complains again tell him to clairify me in thats what that knob is for.
Some of the Mexican CBER'S Out there have some big Amps just like we due in the USA.
Steve CEF-252
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