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Radiodude
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 5:05 pm: | 
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What if.....
(fill in the blank(radio related(cb,ham,gmrs,frs,murs))) |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 6:08 pm: |
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the fcc took back half the ham bands and all of cb what could you really do about it,nothing, they own it,we don't.government of the people,for the people and by the people,phooey! |
ryan
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 11:36 pm: |
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the FCC would have a hard time cleaning up 11 meters. im sure theres lots of hams who would sit in their place too |
Simon
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 9:18 am: |
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Actually the FCC dont own the spectrum anymore that similar agencies in other countries do, they just have been given the right/responcibility to try and manage it. |
bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 10:12 am: |
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bigbob some bands are ham ONLY world wide and it would be hard for the fcc to do that now they can remove a band IF its us only like 220 so dont hold your breath that cb is going to get 12 or 10 meters.... |
ryan
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 1:35 pm: |
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the truckers alone is enough to keep CB in the control of the hands of the citizen. not to mention channel 6, 11, 26, 9, 27.555, 26.715, 26.835, and many others. those splatterboxes they use on those freq.s are enough to render a whole band useless to anyone looking for RELIABLE long dist communication for the non-hobbyist. |
Crafter
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 5:44 pm: |
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Pry my cold dead hands! Enough said ? |
Radiodude
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 10:38 pm: |
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Please stay with the WHAT IF!!!
Like this "What if" the 10 meter band was divided up between "hams and CBers" with a license required to operate there? |
707
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 5:03 pm: |
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Personally, I believe there is plenty of bandwidth available now for CB, so what if the band allocation for CB remains the same for now, but the segment from 27.605 to 27.805 were available for licensed amateur techs for SSB phone, 27.805 to 27.905 for digital modes. 27.905 to 28.000 for experimental beacons, transponders, etc. limited to 5 watts.
The segment between 27.405 and 27.600 could remain as it is, for government, itinerary, marine, etc.
In reality though, I'd imagine the hard core ham community would take issue with that by noting that techs can upgrade to general and 10m priveleges with 5wpm and an easy test. That seems to be the catch-all answer nowadays. Can't blame 'em, but on the other hand, I don't see where this would hurt anybody and it can do nothing but help the "pirate freebander" situation as perceived by the staunch amateurs.(not that there is really a problem)
It might also serve to get some folks more interested in HF digital modes. |
bruce
| | Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:38 am: |
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The problem is the test for general class is so striped down that it is not a problem to pass also untill repealed there is a international code requirement.....THATS where some will pin there hopes ......but i think code is dead. |
Crafter
| | Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 9:02 pm: |
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Dead soon to be gone. |
Kirk
| | Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:33 pm: |
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Sorry to break this thread a bit...but let me just say, as a semi-user of code, code is not "dead." It might be dead to those who care not to use it and would rather see it gone but I hear and work many, many Hams still using it, so how can something be "dead" if it's in use? Not picking on Bruce (a fellow Ham) or anybody else, but as long as people use something, it remains somewhat "alive". Will the FCC abolish the requirement? Probably, but still, code is pseudo-digital (no encription/encode/decode)...and this world has yet to begin to see the full use and benefit of digital modes. Couldn't we say that "CB is also dead" when you consider the amount of individuals that use CB now compaired to the 70's or earlier? Maybe CB is the mode that's dead? |
bruce
| | Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 4:46 am: |
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kirk .... I worked moonbounce and scatter for years and code is the way to go. It if far better than SSB and can be easly copyed long after SSB is totaly gone But with todays other digital means its not likely that a new generation will become interested in it and its requirement for a license is a mute point. If we are to bring intrest back into radio our exams must be brought up to date...... not a foward of 1919 when the frist testing was installed. It is almost as pointless as requireing driving on a stick shift ar how to handle kickback from the crank! I hope the ITU this next month will see its time to move on and drop it allowing it as a option not a requirement. |
Kirk
| | Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 10:01 pm: |
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I totally see your point Bruce....times change and so do we. But it raises my blood pressure when folks dismiss something they dont use. You didn't do this, I just feel some people do. I can't necessarily agree with you on dropping, but respectfully will hold my opinion. Good ideas here....good forum. And while some of you are reading, let me just say that...I have been on many a Ham thread/website and most of us here (CB and Ham) are very respectful of each other and our passions in radio...wherever they may be. There are far too many "stuffy" Ham sites. It's refreshing to know that we can co-exist in what seems to be a self-policed/respected forum. Obviously there is a Forummaster, but I hope he/she has limited times where a deletion has to be administered. 73 Bruce and all.--Kirk |
bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 7:41 am: |
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Kirk I have said before that the place for a code exam would be for extra class that would put some clout in the exam and keep code alive. But as far as 2003 unless the fcc would be willing to extend tech privs to 12 and 10 meters i see little sence in keeping the code test in the general class. If the tech class was extended to all bands all mods 12 meters and up i would also be infavor of retaining the code for general class too but unless we do something the hobie is in deep do-do.
That do you think??? |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 9:15 am: |
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Code?My neighbor still gets his old model-t out in the summer for the car shows,but when he goes on a trip he uses his s.u.v.The fcc can and will control the USA airwaves,they will sell the aforementioned bands to the highest bidders and using the irs and the icc track down individuals as well as "mom and pop"retailers and put them out of business,all they need is funding to do it and a "tough as nails" director that's not afraid to shoot people to make a point.Are you really willing to DIE to save your hobby,I think not.Cold dead hands-gimmee a break. |
Simon
| | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 9:41 am: |
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I find it interesting that you have to take a compentancy test to use CW on the hf bands but that even a tech (not meant to put techs down - I used to be one - twice even) can use CW with taking any such test on the higher bands. |
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