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Sodapop
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 8:16 pm: | 
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Ok, so is there any other freqs beside 11 meters where you can talk without a Ham ticket? I know it's an odd question. But I am not up on all the freqs out there, and I am wondering if there is another band I can work besides 11 meters. Before I get the speach, "Just get a Ham ticket". I am not saying I will not get a ticket someday, but I am wondering if there is another band I can talk on right now. So fill me in guys, where can I go? |
307
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 8:32 pm: |
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FRS is one of them..However getting your "Amateur Radio Tech Licence" is a simple procedure. Go to qrz.com and take the practice tests about 20 or 30 times...Then go to an Amateur Group and take the test...I have a friend at work that knows "little" about radio and did it in one week...It is a snap! I might add it is a pile of fun on HF/VHF and UHF...6 meters is my terf...
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Bigbob
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 8:41 pm: |
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ANYwhere you want,just don't get caught,it's as simple as that.I don't condone it ,but you asked,and I answered,if you got a transiever that'll go there,go for it. |
ryan
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 8:54 pm: |
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ok lets start from the bottom:
LF band, 1 watt, antenna restrictions, and lots of qrn
MW, 100mw into 10' antenna
HF, around 13.56mhz, you can transmit using a ridiculously low field strength. somewhere around 3mW
49Mhz, 300mW power restriction?
MURS VHF radio, 2 watts, no antenna restriction
FRS UHF, 1/2 watt into inefficient on-board antenna
i dont know how accurate the rules are on each band, but im sure someone can correct me.
who needs the ticket? |
Highlander
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 9:41 pm: |
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GMRS in the UHF band (~462-467 MHZ), MURS in the VHF band (~151-154 MHZ), and Part 15 services in the "baby monitor" band around 49 Mhz, VHF-Low. |
XLAXX
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:00 pm: |
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Sodapop-
Like your quote in your profile bro! There's nothing like shooting skip barefoot. It's all about the antenna, Bruce would back me up on this one!
I think the breakdown on freq's is pretty well-defined. I have a Police Call book and it was very specific on where one can talk. I could be wrong but 11 meters is it. You can get this book from Rat Shack,... $12.99 retail, $3.99 last year's edition. I'm sure someone could have varying opinions on this but you're taking a risk going to other bands as I'm sure you already know.
XLAXX |
Apocolypse400
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:04 pm: |
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Murs (Multi_use Radio Service)
FM, Cheap Radios, They are the old "dot" Business band radios, TWO WATTS Limited
151.820
151.880
151.940
154.570
154.600
FRS (Family Radio Service)
FM, REALY REALY CHEAP .5 watt limited
#1 - 462.5625
#2 - 462.5875
#3 - 462.6125
#4 - 462.6375
#5 - 462.6625
#6 - 462.6875
#7 - 462.7125
#8 - 467.5625
#9 - 467.5875
#10 - 467.6125
#11 - 467.6375
#12 - 467.6625
#13 - 467.6875
#14 - 467.7125
GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service)
462.550 Range, share some frequencies with FRS. This is a KINDA SORTA Citizen Band. IT DOES REQUIRE A LISCENCE, but the radios are very cheap and you can buy them at walmart, no liscense required to purchase. I would say its now IMPOSSIBLE to regulate this band, and will become FREE by default SOON
Thats all that I know of |
bruce
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:16 pm: |
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YES there is life outside ham or cb radio
These are a few of the experimenter bands......
160-190KHZ 1 watt 50 foot ant tricky band but if you do it right hundreds of miles
49.86 mhz limited power closed band 1 mile open band unlimited ive worked 2000 miles with not much more power.
MURS channles 150+ mhz range with good radios several miles but this band is just like 2 meters and ive worked 100 miles with MURS power level on 2 meters
FRS channles 460+ mhz range if your lucky a mile
I by the way get off your butt and get a ham ticket LOL, LOL
Bruce |
Sodapop
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:36 pm: |
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Well loads of imput, and it seems my feeling was right. A Ham ticket would be best. Trouble is there isn't to many Ham operators around here. But maybe I'll just have to do it, and hope for the best. Thanks for the info guys, as always your there with an answer. |
Antennadude
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:54 pm: |
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Here we go again. If you have a radio that will go there GO THERE!!! Talk where you want when you want , just do it with care, which means listen get to know the rules of the road then go for it!! |
de
| | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 12:46 am: |
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Re Apo....
Those blue dot whatever color radios DO REQUIRE a license. In fact the license fees required are not cheap. The application is very similar to or rather was very similar to the forms used to apply for a standard commercial license. We tried three of them at the office a while back and well unless they changed the forms or you are a glutton for red tape forget it.
We ended up scrapping them when the licenses expired. |
de
| | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 12:52 am: |
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Topic: Surprised!!!
I am surprised that no one mentioned the walkie talkie function on a select few cell phones. I will not name names but boiled down you get a cell phone with a two way radio function. The one we had allowed us unlimited two way radio use built into the monthly cell phone payment.
The downside, at least the ones we had required a fairly hefty monthly tab for the cell phone. But if you travel a great deal the virtual unlimited range (the two way uses the cell towers for transmissions) makes it worth while. Use the two way rather than the cell phone to talk to family and friends who have the similar telephone. |
bruce
| | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 8:41 am: |
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Antennadude
The reason the FCC exsists is back 80 years ago the radio users did EXACTLY what you support. The result was such a mess the goverment had no choice but to take control. Even when trafic nets are working disasters there are still thoes who get a perverted feeling of power to interfere with them.
As little good as the FCC does at least there is a inforcement agency with out it only thoes with the big radios would suvive. There are ways to apply for change and if you realy beleve you have such a right do it.
Bruce
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Znut
| | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 10:10 am: |
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Certain color dot freqs are unlicensed with limited power. NOT all color dot freqs. See apocalypse's post.
I don't know the exact power limit for MURS, I thought it was 1 watt because the radio shack VHF 2 channel mobile drops from 2 to 1 watt one on MURS freqs.
Znut |
Apocolypse400
| | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 10:39 am: |
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de,
I think I was not clear enough in my post. The MURS radios are license free, they utilize the same frequencies as the old "dot" radios.
"The MURS frequencies were formerly available exclusively to licensees in the Business Radio Service. The FCC created MURS as an unlicensed, Part 95 service in order to drop the licensing requirement (so long the technical conditions are met), and to permit personal communications as well as business communications. "
"MURS is one of five Citizens Band Radio Services. (See 95.401.) The others are the (original) Citizens Band Radio Service at 27 MHz, the Low Power Radio Service (LPRS) at 216-217 MHz, the Medical Implant Communications Service (MICS), the Family Radio Service (FRS) at 460 MHz, and the Wireless Medical Telemetry Service (WMTS). "
Hope this clears it up, |
Antennadude
| | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 11:02 pm: |
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Bruce,
My last post was meant as a joke!! HA HA you know funny!! |
Highlander
| | Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 1:31 am: |
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Our company has given a few of us the phones with the 2 way radio feature - It works as advertised and is very cool. An individual plan is about 60 bucks a month, but with my employer paying 1/2 of the bill, I couldn't say no, and got rid of my home phone altogether. We took a trip to Nevada last month and were able to 2-way to folks back home from our hotel room.
GMRS and MURS have the potential to provide reliable range out to 5 or 10 miles, with good antenna height. |
bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 7:53 am: |
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Antennadude
Accepted ! |
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