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Moderator558
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 9:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CAN ANYONE HELP

I JUST SWITCHED IP's (BAD MOVE) and i let the local phone carrier talk me into using them and getting billed with phone bill.

PROBLEM
I have had them for 1 week now and i get a pop up that says:
I required update is needed for your dial up connection.

so i have no choice but to click OK

well prior to this friggin update my connection was 52000 bps
now it will only get as high as 43000 bps RARELY!!!!!!! mostof the time its 33000

the IP says my phone line must have a bad connection (they own that phone line) but when i use GATEWAY GO BACK to before the update i can connect at 52000 bps again.

MY OPTIONS?
1. DROP MY NEW IP LIKE A HOT ROCK (HMMMMMMMMM)
2. GET MY OLD IP BACK with NO SUPPORT UNLESS its 9-5 m-f grrrrr
3. Figure how to get rid of the update and avoid the future updates?
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Phoneman
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 9:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

who's your new provider?
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Moderator558
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SBC ameritech
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bruce
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ive had several and 43 k is about as good as i could get im happy with juno and its as cheap as any
bruce
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Funtimebob
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SBC Ameritech will try anything. Very unscrupulous. Had a call from them last week wanting me to try their DSL for 29.99 per month.
I told the rep that what little I did on the Internet, E-mail etc, I didn't need high speed. that I was happy with my AOL. his response was "But you dont have AOL through ameritech"
tried to get me to believe that i would get Aol high speed through Ameritech for only $29.99!

I told the rep about somebody else that had High speed Aol through the cable company and got 2 separate bills, 1 for the High speed cable access and another for the AOL. He assured me that I would only get the 1 bill. Got him to slip up and say that they would be my Isp (which means I would have 2 bills if I wanted to keep my AOL)
i then Immediately hung up on him after 10 minutes:)
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Taz
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 1:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Moderator 558


Ok, first of all your going to confuse people.

You switched whats known as an ISP

INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER

You are saying IP

INTERNET PROTOCAL

Second the update is (chances are) just an updated dialer with a new interface and maybe some new options (I.E. spy ware)


The reason your connection is slower is probly one or more of the below.


1. Your new ISP's closest C.O. (Central Office)
which you dial into is farthar away, or there is a bad connection somwhere between you and the C.O.

2. Your new isp puts a cap on connection speeds.

I suggest you go back to your own ISP.


Funtimebob


Yes, you would have 2 bills! Aol actually offers their own dsl.
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Doboy
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 3:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One thing you can try that worked real well for me is to update you modem driver, I went from about 28.8 to around 75.0. All you need to do is find out who made your modem, this can usually be found in the device manager, Go to www.56k.com and look for a updated driver for your brand modem, save, go back to the device manager and follow directions to update from disk. Like I said, it worked for me, but it's worth a try.
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Taz
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 3:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

75?

allthough that is possible but you must be really close to your CO.

There are also updated modems beyond the standard 56k.

There is not a v.92 modem which uses a little better compression and enables somwhat faster connection.
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Doboy
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 4:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a friend that got me a good deal on some ISDN cable that I had put in the house, that helped a little.
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Taz
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 6:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

isdn cable? you mean cat 5?

Catagory 5 cable?

Well I doubt it helped unless you had a bad conntection in your house somwhere.

You have to keep in mind that the signal is only coming to your house at a certain speed.
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Biged
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I use a cable modem and love it. I called about the DSL in my area but I am 8 load coils away from my CO. Too far! I got my cable modem for $39 a month and my download speed is normally around 350-500 and my upload speed is around 250-300. Its fast. I was suprised how much faster is was than an ISDN line. And cheaper too!
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Doboy
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 1:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My house is 25 years old so the phone line in the house was not what you would call, good, so i'm sure that was most of my connection problem at first, I've got a cable modem now and it's worth every penny, instead, of 20 minutes to download a mp3 it only takes about 45 seconds!
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Taz
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 2:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ISDN lines are expensive.

I run cable and I get about 3000kbps (3meg) down and about 300kbps up.
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Scrapiron63
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 3:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You guys make me jealous talking about those fasta** connections while I gotta live with this old dial-up isp, tops is about 45 kbps. Thats the price you gotta pay if you don't want close neighbors, and live on a mountain top for good radioing. However, help is on the way, DSS now is offering direct internet off the satellite. They've had the "receive" working good for a good while, and now have the "send" working also. It's still pretty expensive, but what the heck, its only money, right? ha
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Taz
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 4:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yep who cares,


HEY COPPER SEND ME 20 LASER 500'S!
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Bigbob
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how about fibre optics,hmmmm?
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Taz
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha

like an oc-255 connection at about lets say 13,219.200 megs per second.


thats 13 gigs 219 megs

So look at it this way,

You could transfer your whold Hard drive in less than 6 seconds depending on the size of your hard drive.


:)
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Bigbob
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yep yep yep! they got em where I live
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Scrapiron63
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Having fiber optic phonelines doesn't mean anything if the telephone company doesn't offer broadband.
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bruce
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I work all day with fiber optic systems then i go home to a 40 year old house and a phone system that you crank it to get a dial tone.... 43k the best i can do the WORST here was AOL they lasted a month the BEST JUNO not a high tech ISP but works
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Taz
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 1:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scrapiron, when did we say anythng about fiber phonelines?

Who said the phone company had to offer the Broad Band?


But! If you did have a fiberoptic phoneline, you would get a true 56k connection!!!!!!!


Hey bruce are you 3M certified? I am!
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Scrapiron63
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 4:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not always true Taz, we have fiber optic lines, but the phone company doen't provide IS, a private company is the ISP, so we gotta go thur their computers, then thur the local private telephone company, 45-46 K is tops, and I'm just 3-4 miles from the ISP.
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Taz
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 7:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmm
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bruce
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 8:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Taz if that means puting on conectors when one of our jail guest Rips it off then the answer is yes. BUT i only do it when i have no choice at 12 bucks each i hate screwing them up
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Taz
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha, I hate terminating fiber. The damn thing is like the size of a hair folicle and it can be hard to see.
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Chris142
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your lucky that your not on Aol! A good night I can connect at 24k......just spent 20 minutes signing on and instantly getting booted.Took 5 tries!
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 7:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

chris dont say AOL please!
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Scrapiron63
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 9:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hear that from a lot of AOL users, guess they've got too many members and not enough servers. My isp is pretty good for a dial-up, no problem getting on, never get kicked off, and mine is online about 16 hours a day.
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Taz
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 3:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mine has been online for the past 958 hours. :) I lost service due to a storm a while back.
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Chris142
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 1:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aohell used to not be too bad.In the last month or so it has gotten almost useless.If I dont get booted off every 10 minutes I think something is wrong.
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Taz
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 2:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha
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Capncrunch
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 7:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i never have a problem with aol kicking me offline
i have fallen asleep with comp online wake up and still on connects at 45333 everytime im kinda suprised cause the phone lines to my house look like they are 5o yrs old i wasnt sure they worked when i first bought the house last year but no prob here chris142 you should probably check your phone lines might be that or your computer i had a real old computer for a month and thats about the best i could get was 24k and kept kicking off i just dont think aol is your problem
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Chris142
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actully I reciently got a 2nd phone line just for my puter and fax machine.The lines in the house are new......outside on the poles and such they are 40+ years old.If I get booted so do half of my "buddies" on my list.When I (we) try to go back online we all get the same message "Updating aol database" and we cant get back online untill it's done counting from 0% to 100%,sometimes several times in a row.

Sundays between 5pm and 8pm is the worst.We cant even access aol for over a couple of minutes w/o being booted.Switching access numbers doesn't help,theyre all doing updated at the same time.What is an update anyway?
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Taz
Posted on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Call your phone company and complain about not getting proper advertised service.