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GTO
| | Posted on Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 10:13 pm: | 
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Hello - I just put up my Maco 5/8 (SORRY TAZ) and I love it. Anyway, it is on a 36' pole and I was thinking of putting it on my roof and this would put the base at 50'. I have heard people saying that is is a good idea to keep an antenna at 1 full wave which is 36'. And have heard people say the higher the better. Should I leave it alone or go for the 50'. I usually talk local and skip every now and then..
THANKS
G T O |
Taz
| | Posted on Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 11:13 pm: |
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The higher the better! Look at it this way,
Would you rather have 36 bucks or 50 bucks? |
Taz
| | Posted on Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 11:13 pm: |
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I would want 50 over 36! Should have taken the imax |
bruce
| | Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 5:42 am: |
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GTO look at this way at 36 fot does it clear most things and at 50 how many more will it clear then ask is it worth the extra hassle? |
Marconi
| | Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:42 am: |
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GTO, you may gain a little bit locally, maybe not. However, mounting on the roof presents some very important additional problems that must be considered.
You are likely raising the pole by lifting it up from a position on the roof already. Most push-up-poles require you to be at or near the first section in order to push or pull it out. How are you going to do that when you get it up on the roof where the lift point maybe 10'-12' above your head? You will also need a good secure mount on the roof that will maintain the integrety of the roof for support and against leaks.
I don't recommend 50' push-up poles either because of wind and weather factors, but you could buy a 50'er and mount it where your are currently installed? If you guy it real well they will work without much concern if you live where the wind and weather are mild.
Marconi |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 12:47 pm: |
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...leave it at 36 feet...less wind...less chance of lightning strikes ( plus you will NOT talk that much further at the extra height== been there tried that !! )...you may put 2 s-units extra on those you DO talk to...but how many folks do you talk to that are 2 s-units or less ( way out there )?........BIG FOOT |
Bullseye
| | Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 5:29 pm: |
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I agree with Bruce. If it clears most other structures trees etc... at 36' it probably is'nt worth the headache to raise it if it's working. By the way Howyoudoin' Bruce |
Bullseye
| | Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 5:29 pm: |
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I agree with Bruce. If it clears most other structures trees etc... at 36' it probably is'nt worth the headache to raise it if it's working. By the way Howyoudoin' Bruce |
GTO
| | Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 6:10 pm: |
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Marconi - I live in a shotgun house in New Orleans and the way I wanted to mount it is on the eve peak that is at 20'. Under the eve is where the roof ends 5' past the eve at 14'. So I was going to put the 36' push up pole on the extended roof at 14' and brace it to the eve at the 20' top level and also have 2 more braces at the below the eve where the pole will be standing on the roof. I will raise it by standing on the 20' roof and pushing the pole up. This is really hard to explain but it will not be that hard to do. So I just wanted to see if it would help my TX/RX. It clears everything at 36' that is close to my house. But, I have some higher trees and buildings about 80' from the antenna...
THANKS Everybody |
Taz
| | Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:31 pm: |
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Most of you are looking at the TX only. It will improve your RX, at least a little! |
10ring
| | Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:42 pm: |
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your higher than one wave lenght off the ground and that is what matters. I would leave it their unless their was some thing major in your way. I have a maco and know first hand that they come down faster than they go up when you get greedy with those skiny thin walled push up poles. I just happen to have one staight section left want it. HEY LOOK OUT....run!!!! good luck and be SAFE. |
Tech833
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 12:48 am: |
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The extra height would help. However, remember that the FCC limits CB antenna height to either:
Maximum of 60 feet above ground level at the highest point, or:
Maximum of 20 feet above a structure (like a billding).
If you are a licensed ham and your antenna is used for 10 meters, then this does not apply. |
bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 1:05 pm: |
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10 ring ill add to than push up poles can be a cheep way to get a ant up high but guys PLEASE remember you can get killed within the last year at least one ham has been killed in kentucky and i know the goverment had reported a number of others hurt. Here in Tampa Fl we use 7200 volt feeders you hit one it is 4 TIMES the voltage of our electric chair DEATH is certan if you contact one and DONT rely on the fiberglass insulator to protect you always use the rule of ONE your pole and antenna should be ONE foot shorter than the distance to the power lines |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 9:15 am: |
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...shucks I always WENT " double or nothing"..which means stay away at least DOUBLE the length of the push up pole and tne antenna length....but to each his own....better to be SAFE than sorry ...BIG FOOT |
Galileo
| | Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 6:50 pm: |
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You will love the Maco, much better than my Imax or my Antron...Go for the extra height it should help a little local...Good luck.... |
Kirk
| | Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 9:17 am: |
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I'll add my 2 cents and agree with Bruce, BF and Marconi...is it really worth the hassel? That's up to you. Honestly I think we all agree that we want the best we can get, even if it costs us a little more here or there. And certainly, Bruce makes a great point. There was a local guy here over the summer who, while making repairs to his antenna on a tower at 60', lost balance and fell. As fate [I think Heavenly] would have it, his feet wrenched inside the tower and held him upside down ( at 50 ') and stopped his fall. He was ok, but hung upside down for about 2 hours. He is in his 70's and used NO BELT! How crazy is that? So be CAREFUL MAN!! But at 36', you should be fine. Nice choice on antenna also. I would do the same. 73 GL Kirk |
GTO
| | Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 9:44 pm: |
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Hi again,
I think I am going to put it up on the roof and not crank it up to 36'. I might just use 6' of every section and then the pole will be 27' and with it on the 14' roof the base will be 41' and I plan on using 2 sets of 4 guy wires. I think it will be stronger and still be higher then where it is now. THIS MACO IS A GREAT ANTENNA. I bleed less with it when I run my Palomar Skipper on the low side then I did with my A-99 barefoot.
THANKS |
