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Deadly Eyes
| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 8:37 am: | 
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I was reading a post on another board in which the poster was proclaiming that CB should be converted to ham bands.
So just to play a little devils advocate, I pose the following WHAT/IF question? If the FCC ever switched the CB band back to a Ham Band requiring at least the no code tech license would you get required license even if that license allowed you to run 100 watts?
As I stated the question is just a 'What/IF' question. Just a little something to make you go HMMMMM.
DE
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For those interested as to why I pose the question, the original post stated that there would always be the few who refuse to comply which would make the conversion not likely. |
Barefoot
| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 10:18 am: |
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They would screw it up ! |
Biged
| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 10:23 am: |
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There are too many possibility's for that qeustion. My guess is, no one would comply. Why would they? 3/4 of the truckers use linears and it goes basically unoticed. That just "one" of the many illegal acts on 11 meter. Then the FRS radios would skyrocket. They would be making mobile radios and base stations. Or, everybody would eventualy say, the heck with it and go take the test and be done with it. But, I dont see it happening. |
Alsworld
| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 11:21 am: |
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Deadly Eyes,
to answer your question, sure, I'd get the license.
Many people on this forum were around CB "way back then" and have proudly given their old CB call numbers in different threads.
Realisticlly will it ever happen? Nope. Here is why (in my opinion).
1) Too many radios out there, even legal FCC approved 40 channels that people would just not do it, same reason you see the ham license vs freebanding debate. It would be unenforceable.
2) Ham radio already has so many bands allocated including 12 & 10 on either side of "11" meters. It might be construde as taking away "public" airwaves for the "few". (Disclaimer- few meaning number of licensed hams vs. the US public, strictly numbers).
3) FCC is far too understaffed to handle such new licensing requirements unless it really became a no kidding no-code ham license. Then would it throw the testing burden on local VEC's as well? That brings me to the final point.
4) Misconception- The CB frequecies of 26.965-27.405 commonly refered to as 11 meters have never been "ham" bands. Many ham website forums debate this wanting to "take back" the band?? It never was a ham band to begin with.
I'm sure if it was done all over again, the FCC would never have dropped licensing seeing what has become of the airwaves. Of course, they probably would have never put it up in the HF frquency band either. It's here to stay as a free public means of cheap communication.
As usual, I do not blame the FCC. The government cut their legs out from under them (funding and manpower).
Just my 2 cents after going hmmmm for awhile .
Alsworld |
Jombob
| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 2:13 pm: |
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Ham do not hardly use 15 & 12 meters now. Another band is not needed at 11 meters. Enforcing anything on 11 meters is not possible in a free society. The only band where a license is enforceable would be above two meters due to limited range (fairly easy to track a lawless signal if it stays in ones backyard). The problem with limited range is few openings beyond 50 to 75 miles. Who would leave 11 meters and higher with great DX- nobody. Now the FCC would have two bands to manage- the FCC does not want it! Even the ham bands are mostly self regulated by amateurs now. |
Hoosier Cardinal
| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 2:47 pm: |
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yeah id get a lisense!! IMHO if they did go back to lisensing ( and even maybe a test) that would more or less rat out the losers that we have to contend with now on the air on the CB bands..
The FCC was -STUPID VERY VERY STUPID- to drop the lisensing anyways!!! |
bruce
| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 3:04 pm: |
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aslworld 26.96-27.25 was a ham band on a shaired bases untill 1957 it was not used and became cb go look at late 40's to mid 50's ham radios like collins and halicrafters you will find 11 meters on them. As for geting it back you right now that 12 meters is there whats the point.
bruce |
Alsworld
| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 5:17 pm: |
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Bruce,
and I thought I had done my homework. Oh the sadness of doing only half the homework and giving bad information . I obviously did not go far enough back and stand corrected. Thanks for correcting my error.
Alsworld |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 5:39 pm: |
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...nah...will never happen...fcc has hard enough time now enforcing the rules in existence, much less try to make cb into a amateur type band... just can NOT be done !!... no insult to any one s ideas or promotions.. it just can not be done, even if the only LEGAL way to transmit was ssb or fm or digital communications.. or using "half channels" for legal frequencies..it just can NOT be done.....BIG FOOT |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 5:49 pm: |
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...licencing for a CB radio licence... ( nope ) the FCC made a small boo-boo in dropping the license requirement...and what would be the benefits to adding a license ? 9 out of 10 folks would NOT get licensed..why send in their $ 20 - $50 for a license ( a sheet of paper with call letters ) when their neighbors do not do it, the folks theirselves have NOT been required to do it for 15 PLUS years...what is the incentive to be a LEGAL station in the year 2002 or 2003 or what ever year ? sure the fcc will NOT be knocking on your door, but the F C C can NOT handle the situation as it is now...they know it, we know it.. they do what they can when they can with the powers they have. Those who wish to be "bad " and do it long enough to get the fcc attention will eventually get the FCC attention ...but making cb into an amateur band will NOT work. YOU know it, I know it. .... BIG FOOT |
antenna man
| | Posted on Monday, August 05, 2002 - 7:18 am: |
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Oh well, its not the end of the world.. its just radio... LOL |
dimstar
| | Posted on Monday, August 05, 2002 - 1:27 pm: |
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KQA7409 |
Deadly Eyes
| | Posted on Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:47 pm: |
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Only one way to do it....
There would be only one way to do it. In two phases. First step, require proof of valid licensing to purchase any ham gear capable of getting on the frequencies. Second, allow the states DOT to seize illegal radios as contraband and fine the drivers for using non type accepted equipment.
Could they truly do it. Well during World War 2 the FCC told very single ham to shut it down and it was shut down till the end of the war. So yea I guess it could be done give the events of 9/11.
BUT on the other hand would it be worth it? Probably not unless the gvt wanted to gain some control as a form of homeland security. |
R2d2
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 3:14 am: |
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If the FCC were to take 11 meters away from the citizens, there would be a sharp decline in new ham radio operators. After all, 11 meters is the spawning grounds for new radio operators. FRS frequencies would become the only realm for which newbies could try out a radio. The moral of the story: Careful what you wish for, because you might just get it. |
Deadly Eyes
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 8:19 am: |
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Re R2...
I quite agree. You see I have nothing against the legal CB OP who just fudges a little bit in the small details, say a few extra feet in antenna height (single digit). Is a matter of fact I also started out as a CB op, a royce 23 channnel mobile.
Citizens Band offers a training ground for those inclined toward the hobby. But also never forget it is only a hobby. The nation will not rise nor fall because CB and Ham Radio vanished overnight.
When you run a country as its president your perspectives and priorities are much vaster than the CB and Ham Communities.
DE |
bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 11:37 am: |
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R2D2 no doubt cb has produced a large number of hams and will continue to do so one reason i encourage cbers to get licensed. Some dont seen to understand my and most other hams stand on the cb user we dont have a problem with cb or most people on cb just a select few who feel they are above all laws. As for contrubiting to this country all you have to do is look at what happened in WW2 where did the military gets its first batch of radio opps? HAMS ofcourse not to say they would not pull ( today ) from the cbers too you bet they will. There are a lot of good people on this forum ...yes even freerman has a good point .... sometimes. No 11 meters ant going anywhere now that there is a 12 mater band there would be no reason even to want it back. Hey this i found intresting the MURS 150 mhz frequencys may be put under cb rules VERY intresting could you have 20 foot antennas on that band HUMMMM well see! |
