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Deadly Eyes
| | Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 10:34 am: | 
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Which got me thinking, a dangerous thing I might add. I have read many times where people have stated that they would never become licensed ham operators, some more emphatically than others.
Given that the questions and answers to the test are given to you and that the 5 wpm code is definately NOT a problem I ask the following question.
Why don,t you want to be a legal, licensed ham operator who can under the rules and regs run more than 4 watts of power?
The why not being because 'I do not want to' but rather something like I do not have the money for it or my job or my family time, etc.
So just curious "Why" would you not get legal license?
PS
Memo to moderator and those reading my messages. My 'g' key is all messed up so if you see a word with a 'g' missing know that the golden hammer is in this boards future if it keeps this up. ;-)
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Calmspirit
| | Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 12:19 pm: |
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Deadly Eyes,
This is a great question! I am wonder this also. I will be sitting for the "dam ham exam" myself in september. I will go for the code part also because I want to be able to do cw, but also get on the 10 meter band.
Maybe people don't like that ones name and address is public knowlege and can be looked up on the internet by anyone?
calmspirit |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 1:59 pm: |
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...some times we as intelligent human beings , we accidently on purpose do the simpliest things in the hardest ways..( my self included )...BIG FOOT |
bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 3:11 pm: |
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Deadly eyes I got myself into a lot of trouble for asking If you not a ham why do you need to " RESTORE " ham frequencys on your radio and in this case no intrest in becoming a ham. I would find it just as puzzling for a boat owner to want to expand his radio to cover MURS or even 2 meters. It's just a know fact that most bootleging comes from persons running export type radios since the adutude is i will do as i please. Lost in this is this nation is a nation of laws. The idea thay one can disregard thoes that you do not agree with is nonsence. Just my opinion which i will not sway from.
Bruce |
Taz
| | Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 4:18 pm: |
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Why? I dont want one because
A. I dont need one!
B. It allows me to run more power but not on 11 meters! ( BUT IT DOES ALLOW YOU TO HAVE AN AMP ON YOUR PROPERTY)
C. If I get caught using an amp on 11 meter and I am licensed they would only hold it against me or somone could turn me in.
D. Seems to me like there is only 1 pro to having a license! And that is being able to have an amp on my property! Seems like im taking a step doen the radio privelage world because right now im only interesed in talking 11 meters. |
Galileo
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:31 am: |
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Hey Bruce,
How are you? As the son of a long time ham K5-KIO, I learned respect for ham operators..I do have a radio capable of both transmitting, and recieving fro 25-30 mhz...In my case I DO NOT transmit on any ham freq's...But I do enjoy listening, there is no temptation for me..I also have a scanner, and listen to it quite regularly..I will be getting my ham ticket soon..I wish that my scanner covered a even bigger chunck of the spectrum, so I can see why someone would want to have a radio capable of more...Tom Shaw |
Highlander
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:31 am: |
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Bruce, I agree with alot of what you say, but as free citizens, I think it is important to remember that we do have the right to civil disobedience if we so choose--we just have to be prepared to live with the consequences. If everyone always followed every law, no matter how unjust, we would still have "Jim Crow" laws. In a case like that, I think that one has not just a right, but a RESPONSIBILITY and OBLIGATION to "disregard" an unjust law. Martin Luther King and many others of his era were breaking laws, but they were prepared to face the consequences, and often did.
I am not comparing freebanding to this at all, but your blanket statement seemed to me to invalidate civil disobedience as a legitimate course of action for those who dissent.
Just a thought. |
Scrapiron63
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:58 am: |
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I don't think you would see many Ham Operators using these "10 meter" radios. Several don't even have SSB, and most don't have split capabilities for FM repeaters. Besides that, a good HF rig that covers 10 thur 160 with all the features can be bought for about the same money as some of these exports. |
bruce
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 1:13 pm: |
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Highlander
I understand your view I myself have fought for rights for the handicapped but again its go get the law CHANGED.The right ot civil disobedience is fine BUT as i have stated MANY times if ( and just like the civil right movement did ) If the freebanders feel
1) The laws are unfair
2) They HAVE THE RIGHT
3) THey are JUST in the clame
Go get the laws changed. This is not what people are pushing on me. This is not the same thing since no freeband group has made any efford to get even one law changed. My entire point is if they feel that they have the right and the numbers go get it done. As for a obligation to disrigard " unjust laws " If this was true the FCC would have lost by now SOMEONE would made a "Test case " JUST LIKE THE JIM CROW LAWS and the law would have been struck down.
Bruce |
Calmspirit
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 1:56 pm: |
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Highlander,
You have made some very good points here about civil disobedience. Thanks for the reminder!
calmspirit |
bruce
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 3:02 pm: |
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Scrap Your right that there are many 80-10 meter radios that cost about the same as a " export radio" However there are quite a few hams in tampabay running titans, 2950 and a wide number of galaxys. But the bootleging problem is because the " expandable radios " ( titans ect) also cover 10 meters quite nicly even after being moded. I run a stock titan-485 one of the better small radios its about the same size as my rad-shack cb set that is bolted under it . Now it is NOT a problem to run these radios on 10 meters if your a ham at least not yet but it could be down the road. Its a big temptation for some to go anywhere the radio will i hear them on 10 just about anywhere on the band most are ignored some get the hint some dont most give up after a while and go away.
Bruce |
Kirk
| | Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 11:54 am: |
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I gotta side with my ham buddies here...and lemme tell ya a little story to go along with it, that some will understand. I was always reluctant to have kids. All my friends had them, and I thought..."oh I don't have time, don't want, wouldn't be patient enough for, don't have enough money for, have brothers...raised them ...etc." After I had one, then I realized what an absolute joy it is having kids! My point here, in brief is, how could any of you know that you DON'T want to be a Ham when you've never been one? All you know is what you've heard here and there. Until you set in the seat, you'll never know. |
bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 7:57 am: |
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thank you kirk and enjoy your kids so one day you can proud of what you have done to make the world a better place |
Triplecguy
| | Posted on Friday, August 02, 2002 - 12:56 pm: |
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Hey everybody, It only costs 10$ to become a ham. Just try it. Plus you get to meet a bunch of really nice people who want you to learn and love to help you. Some of the folks who helped me are retired and spend a good portion of their live's helping out others and asking nothing in return. A lot of them spend a large amount of money on portable setups for emergency communications for their local government as well. And although many are viewed as eccentric weirdos, not many people have ever treated me so good after only knowing them for 5 minutes. What I am getting at is that HAM is not just the radios and antennas, but also a way of life and a an oppurtunity to make great new friends and keep learning new things. Plus you may meet some that live in Florida and gives you a reason to go there on vacation!! Try it, if you really dont like it you're out 10 bucks, and you never have to talk again.
DAN |
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