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Metro
| | Posted on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 11:39 pm: | 
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Hey guys, a little tip which I'm sure many of you know of already so maybe this is just a reminder, keep your sensitive phone conversations restricted to the land line. I bought a Bearcat scanner a couple of weeks ago and I'm picking up many (approx 25-30 freqs) cordless phone freqs on the 30-50 band within a radius of almost 1/4 of a mile from my house. How? Hook it up to a base antenna like my Skylab that is 32 feet in the air and bingo!! In less than 2 weeks I have heard a neighbor ordering checks consequently giving out her SSN, home address and bank account number, credit card orders, an XO (executive officer) on a Naval warship talking from his home to officers on the ship regarding various issues (nothing secure) on the ship and one marriage that is about to go into the toilet. Amazing what a hundred dollar scanner and 40 dollar antenna can do.
Metro |
Highlander
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 10:15 am: |
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I occasionally talk back to the local crack dealer on his cordless...he still doesn't get it. |
bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 11:59 am: |
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metro when the 46/49 meg phones were the only ones there was a story printed about a guy who bought 2- 6 elem hygain 6 meter beams and juat added small extenders to each elem so he had 12 el vert on 46 mhz( the base station freq. With this he could hear SKIP phone ...thats right pick them up on skip and as far away as 60 miles to one in a high rise building You are absouly right with my 6 meter ground plane at 50 foot and a bearcat 25 year old scanner i can hear phones in largo and down into baypines both 3-5 miles away but thoes days are numbered since all the new ones are on 900mhz and 2.4ghz one more intresting point in some states like florida it is illeaul to monitor these phones unless your a demacrat lissing to a republican leader on his cell phone then its legal to print his conversation in the paper.
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Tech833
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 12:46 pm: |
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Now for some additional fun, get a scanner that will receive the cellular band and see how many conversations of MUCH more sensitive nature are broadcast on analog cellular phones. Of course, this practice is frowned upon by many, and the receivers are almost impossible to obtain anymore. Being 'in the business', I have obtained a couple of 'unblocked' receivers capable of cellular reception (Icom R2 and R10. The R2 rides mobile and the R10 stays in the workshop).
However, an inexpensive 'pre-ban' scanner can provide the same hours and hours of endless entertainment which comes from the cellular band. Cellular base signals can be received for many, many miles by a sensitive receiver and high gain, high elevation 900 MHz. antenna. I get clear signals from 50 miles away and more.
Oh, I have come to the conclusion that everyone within a 50 mile radius of me has an incurable potty mouth. |
Metro
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 3:23 pm: |
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The Bearcat XLT80 goes up to 956 Mghz so I get a few phones in the 900 band but most are 42-49. Found freqs for Navy SEALS which are across the bay from me, Coast Guard etc.. This new toy is ruinning my TV life!
Metro |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 3:37 pm: |
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...shame shame shame on you folks for being so "nosy ".....have done the same thing with my old bearcat 560 mobile scanner in the house, mighty interesting to hear what your neighbors say about their "fine out standing " relatives and friends...and co-workers, too !! have heard reliable conversations from as far as 3 miles away, but they need to learn to stand still and not walk through the house as they talk...seems when they get to the GOOD part, they get noisy and full of static....some of the older cordless phones use 44.000 Mhz for one side of the conversation and 46 - 47 - 48 Mhz for the other side of the system.....got a question: can a ALINCO dr - 580 do any good at recieving the 800 Mhz stuff, hooked up to an outside antenna ?? mine has been modified to recieve 800 - 999 Mhz, but figured I was too fer away from the towers to hear any thing worth while, or maybe just one side of the conversation ( NO FUN )....just asking for others to learn that may have one of those " old " radios ( no my alinco dr-580 is NOT for sale !! ).... having fun with my radios....BIG FOOT |
Chris leggett
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 4:13 pm: |
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I heard my 19 yr old female neighbor(aka."a hottie") telling her boyfriend what she had planned for there date that evening. ;)
Humina,humina |
bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 4:45 pm: |
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tech833 ... your bad you know that ????? HAHAHA |
Buck
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 6:03 pm: |
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833 you are absolutly right....I own a BC700A and with the 900 freq i hear alot of things that i shouldnt......but there is no harm in listning..is there |
Melakaguy
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 7:48 pm: |
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If you take a Bearcat 2500xlt and program 1200-1300mhz in search you can hear Cell phones!!! |
bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 8:32 pm: |
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all right time for some light stuff back in 1990 the woman next door was having a affare now THEN it was not illegal in florida to hear cordless phones it is now well she is blabing on with him telling how much she hates her son and husband and what she would like to be doing with him when she stops and says maby we should be on a regular phone the guy next door is a ham and maby he can hear us! .... to this day i wonder if she could hear me on the floor ... i lost it best chuckle i've ever had! |
Biged
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 12:42 am: |
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This is boring to me any more. I used to do the same thing with my scanner, now I work for the phone Co. After you listen to so many you realize that most of the conversations are mundain. However, I was listening to 2 women talking one day and thought it was just another "so what did you do last night" conversation, but then found out they were lovers. Wow, that was interesting. |
Taz
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 12:47 am: |
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I dont feel that it is nosy. If your signal is put in to the air, I feel it is free game for anyone to listen too. |
409
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 1:29 am: |
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My old Bearcat 800 XLT does a good job and I have a portable TV which gets cell phones on the upper UHF channels if you tune carefully. Probably getting an image of the main frequency from 800MHZ. |
bruce
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 11:57 am: |
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Now keep in mind depending on what state your in and ill speek for florida DONT discuss what your hear in florida that will get you HARD jail time. There are exceptions like you hear a muder being planed or your out to get a republician but as a rule the courts here dont cut you much slack. I tend to aggree with the concenses that if you put it out on the air it's fair game o by the way thoes baby monitors are not covered and you can hear lots of good stuff like a couple near me tho had one and every night i got to hear them " getting aquanted" well one night after asking them to turn the thing off i taped a good one and pasted the tape on their door and no more monitor. Now stupid as it sounds someone did sue in florida a few years back over monitoring with a scanner and it was tossed out because only devices attached to a phone line are covered by the florida law and only devices covered by Sec. 610 of FCC rules ( cell phones) fall under federal laws all others are fair game including cb and ham. |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 1:19 pm: |
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.... scanner enthusiast near me advises to install the 2 - piece "signal amplifier " mounted below the scanner antenna and other part inside house plugged in ac current will help to being in those WEAK signals on scanners...they are primarily intended to be used for vhf/uhf tv signals but will work fine with scanners too, read the fine print on back of package or owners manual...most all of them will work in 30 - 50 mhz range....... also was told that an old-style U H F double bowtie tv antenna ...mounted on a push-up pole will work for scanners as a BEAM antenna...any one know how true that is ??...BIG FOOT |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 1:34 pm: |
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... also is it LEGAL to "record ham & cb transmissions : WITHOUT the other person knowledge or approval ? some nearby say it is "public airwaves and it is okay " and others say "violation of their free speech .... around here it is a general rule that " if FRED does it it is GOOD..... but if WILLIE does the same thing it is all WRONG "...... BIG FOOT |
bruce
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 5:26 pm: |
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bigfoot the amp idea will work and realy will help if you have say 100 foot of coax as for recording cb/ham THAT IS CORRECT we are EXSEMPT from sec 605 so watch what you say |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 9:09 pm: |
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....BRUCE i am confused as to the words you used... ( exsempt ) does that mean it is OK to record another cb or amateur station...or ... is it a BIG "no-no " ?------------- the recieve amps work well on scanners, made for tv reception but they DO work well for scanners. i have noticed that "rat shack " sells " scanner amplifers " for a greatly HIGHER price than the TV signal amplifiers.....RAT SHACK must think scanner owners are very dumb ( of course one of their two models is for handhelds and the other is to be used in a house )... *** having FUN with my radios, whether just listening or having the optional - use transmitter ** BIG FOOT |
bruce
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 9:27 am: |
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everyone knows my spelling in not the best but NO CB OR HAM USER is covered by sec. 605. Sec 605 in short covers secert comunications things like scrambled incoded anything that is not ment for public ears. We the cb/ham user were excluded in the early 1980's making it legal to record/replay cb/ham comunications. Now i know its anoying and now allowed under cb rules but it is NOT illegal you cannot sue HOWEVER in some states it is ILLEGAL to record voice or photo image of ANYONE and in thoes states you could rue afowl of that law in florida its a gray spot you might. On the other hand c-phones and incoded radio carries very stiff fines and jail time. Now before you lissen to that c-phone remember the phone user will get you under this law unless your a demacrat who recorda a republician leader and then prints it in the paper.. funny how things change when politicaly expedent.As for tv amps they have poor noise figures but coax runs of say 100 foot on 800 mhz would lose 13 db so 20 db of of preamp gain @ 4 db of noise is still + 16 db more that you had yep works good.
bruce |
Metro
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 1:26 pm: |
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BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 4:16 pm: |
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....thanki you BRUCE for answering the "recording cb / ham communications " question for me.....kind of wierd in alabama though aboout rcording cb conversations...listening to folks argue about it through the years (( if FRED does it all is fine... if WILLIE does the same thing it is WRONG )) may depend on if they are republicans or democrats ( lol )...watched "ENEMY OF THE STATE " movie on abc tv the other night...amazing what is up in the sky and in our stinking feet ( freezerman there is your cue ) ( LOL )... just trying to have some fun on MEMORIAL DAY afternoon in ALABAMA....with my ham radio. cb radio. scanner and a glass of lemonade.... BIG FOOT |
bruce
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 5:31 pm: |
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big foot enjoy your day and remember why this day is here. Poor frezzerman would not understand the consept of giving your life for others fredom so he would not understand a day like this anyway. Here in tampabay we feel for the people who lost someone in the bridge desaster we had our skyway bridge here in st petersburg get hit in 1980 35 died. I know lots of people like to lissen to the c-phone stuff personaly i dont have a problem with that and i know at the Sheriff dept as a rule we dont care about you hearing us man my talk group is SOO boring that we cant wate to have our batterys go dead. Well kick back have that cold one and toss some steak on the grill !
73
bruce |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 7:43 pm: |
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...steak ? shucks we are having ribs for supper ( " dinner " to you city folks ) (lol)...scanner listening is linds wierd at times... 3 - 5 counties sheriff dept will all be QUIET, then within 10 - 12 minutes 4 out of the 5 will have something MAJOR going on ( 10-33 traffic, car chases, family fights, etc. ) the after an hour or so 2 of the 4 will be back quiet again....have some info for some of you SERIOUS scanner owners...buy several scanners with small amount of memory channels in them... program scanner # 1 with one county ..... scanner # 2 with another city/county....scanner # 3 with federal folks.... scanner # 4 with cordless phones, miscallaneous stuff... scanner # 5 with what ever is left over... run the antenna lead from outside to a signal splitter ( with or without signal amplifier ) and then to the outside antenna jack for each scanner..... so if scanner # 1 is busy... the other 4 will still be scanning for something else to happen... then you can listen to secveral situations going on in several areas at one time... where if you had a 1000 channel scanner and one freq. was IMPORTANT but too long winded...you can still listen to them and what ever else may be going on... i may not be explaining this correctly but if you have questions, I will try to answer them....just an idea for the serious listener...can usually find small memory channel scanners at yard sales, or ham radio conventions.... having fun with my scanners, cb radios and amateur radios.... BIG FOOT |
metro
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 9:17 pm: |
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My grandfather put his a** on the line in the nose of a B-17. I Spat sand in the desert with my finger on a M-4. The irony is that we fought for your right to protest taxes. I LOVE AMERICA, AND EVERY MAN THAT FIGHTS FOR US.
Metro
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bruce
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 10:23 pm: |
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my dad came home from WW2 after 3 years in the south seas with his shouder so badly messed up he could never raise it again my older brother was in just at the begining of vietnam in 61-64 and i served from 68-70 statside ( not my choice THEIRS ) in the USAAC at fort knox. So im well aware thar freedom has a price only my younger brother and my son have never served in this familey my brother is hearing inpaired and my son profoundly retarded. Yes My family have fought for even frezzermans right to spit in the face of our goverment when it fits his needs see i dont have a problem with his need to fight all taxes i have a problem with his need to beleve HE is above the law.
bruce
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Biged
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 4:35 pm: |
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Good one Bruce !!! |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 5:05 pm: |
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...have a bearcat / uniden bc - 9000 scanner ( used to be top of the line )..that recieves 800 mhz -- 1200 Mhz ( cellular excluded )...noticed some cell phone reception in the LEGAL to recieve areas.. ( is the cell band filling up ?? ) but most of it is one side of the conversation ( not both ) and it just aint no fun to listen to ONE side of the conversation........ had a great MEMORIAL DAY with my ribs...bar-b-q of course by ME---having FUN with my radios ( recievers and transmitters ) BIG FOOT |
bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 7:50 pm: |
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big foot i would think your right that they have added channles and now are outside the blocked area C-Phones dont intrest me so i dont have time to keep up with them HOWEVER ANY reciving of c-phones is ILLEGAL in all states. Keep in mind that if your not talking about what you hear not much can be done... unless they stick a mike inside your shack... its realy a stupid law if the c-phone people want to stop you all they need is to go digital with incription and THEN you WILL go to jail if caught.... THAT'S a outright violation of Sec 605 THATS WHAT 605 REALY WAS ALL ABOUT NON STANDARD COMUNICATIONS. If its scrambled you got to copy someones algarithem to decode it its a clear GOT-YA! Well that all ive got to say personaly i dont care to lissen to anyone's wineing on the phone but some do. |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 9:38 am: |
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...bruce... i was not trying to listen to CELL PHONES in particular... just programmed the upper and lower frequencies for an auto-store memory ( and had about 50 memoru channels empty to use...it NEARLY filled them 50 up with TONES... staticy carriers... one or two were actual businesses problably either in Atlanta or Birmingham or Memphis or Columbus Miss.... maybe 5 were "cell phone convos " and they were one-sided..hear one voice but not the other.. so i would up going memory channel by memory channel of all 43 - 44 of them taking them OUT of memory after listening to them for 15 seconds or less...may have saved 3 or less but nuthin major... here is ALABAMA there are still a LOT of folks with the 40 - 50 Mhz handheld cordless phones..but it really is boring to listen ... that is why I have the smaller scanners for police--fire-- etc..so if one gets long-winded the other 3 are still scanning... was planning to get a bc - 895 scanner but the main diff between it and my bc - 9000 was a " digital s - meter " ( wow ).....having FUN with my radios ( whether just listening or grabbing the MIC for the optional transmitter )..on cb and ham freq.----BIG FOOT |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 3:15 pm: |
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...folks call here all the time solicitng this item or this charity and that group.... we never give # of any type over the phone... always make contributions IN PERSON to the " sheriff s organization " or to this group or that.. we never give out infor like that over the telephone..even if it is via the WIRED LAND line... so many frauds and fakes out there it is ridiculous...............but still having FUN with my radios BIG FOOT |
bruce
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big foot i know that i still find i amusing that they BLOCK out your scanner.... almost LOL.
As for sheriff organization's whats REALY sad is i get calls all the time " Hi we are calling from the podunk county S.O. to help abused scanner users" GEESE its fun to stop them and ask their enployee number or the direct line into that office. Sadly most fund raising is done by pro groups who get a cut of what is raised and sometimes a very large cut. Your right dont ever give SSN, master card, or bank info over a cordless phone someone is shuer to be lissing. |
BIG FOOT
| | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 8:47 pm: |
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...lol like your example of PODUCK ABUSED SCANNER USERS....i got an old realistic handheld freq. counter gonna hold it near my cell phone to see if it will tell me ( average ) of the freq. it TRANSMITS... .... may not be enuf stray rf for it to work... any one know of any OLD realistic HOME scanners that can be modified to recieve 800-900 mhz.. must be a very OLD model I do not want one but keep hearing on cb channels of folks that SAY they can do that... they do NOT give an individual model number ( that is why I think they are lying )....... BIG FOOT |
Biged
| | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 10:11 pm: |
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Bigfoot,
I am not sure what the cell phone freq's are but I just got rid of a realistic Pro 2021 base scanner that I modified to recieve from 806 MHz to something around 965 MHz. I am not sur if this is any help but if cell phone freq's are within the 806-900 range, then this is one scanner that will do this. I just saw a brand new one on a websight sell for $50, not bad...Eddie |
MrDelaney
| | Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 6:36 pm: |
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I know it's an old thread, but I just read it today.
I was cleaning up a friend's pair of Radio Shack 5 channel walkie talkies and heard some noise on one of the channels. Turned out to be "bedroom noises" from my neighbor across the street. It must have been a baby monitor, but I never could figure why the transmitter was in the parent's bedroom. I figured out where it was coming from when I heard and saw the kids going in and out the side door.
I guess I'm not a perve, or I wouldn't have given my friend his radios back... |
bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 8:16 pm: |
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HA HA HA i ran into the same thing but i put a note on the door asking them to turn it off finaly i put a tape on the door it went off. Baby monitors can be heard for at least 1/4 mile and they do a real good job of picking up EVERYTHING.
bruce |
Jimbob
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:09 am: |
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I have a friend that uses an old transmitter model Hallicrafters HT-30, I believe. After a while of monitoring, he joins in on the conversation with the transmitter for as long as the other party allows. Strange sense of humor! |
