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Buddyboat
New member Username: Buddyboat
Post Number: 3 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:06 am: |
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Hello, I'm getting a Galaxy 2547 for the home and two Cobra 148 GTL's for the cars. I will only be using these cb's in SSB mode. Do I really need to pay the extra $$$ to get these tuned??? I'm new to CB's and don't understand the tuning deal. Thanks alot for any help, buddyboat |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9007 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:14 am: |
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Buddyboat, WELCOME TO THE COPPER FORUM! There should be no reason / need to pay the extra $$$ to have them tuned for the use you describe as they will work GREAT! Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1023 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:26 pm: |
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Before you pay to get anything done, I'd use them for a while. Usually "tune" means to peak the transmitters to their maximum power ouput, and it's not worth the money. On the other hand, an alignment done by a competent technician can improve the radio's receiver performance and that is worth the money. Especially for a SSB radio if the alignment includes frequency adjustment. |
Bruce
Senior Member Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3427 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 2:39 pm: |
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done by a competent technician Thats the problem .... they are hard to find and thoes with the test equipt. to do it right are even harder .... |
Moonraker
Intermediate Member Username: Moonraker
Post Number: 134 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 8:29 pm: |
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Galaxy 949/959/2547 VR 13.....SSB ALC (modulation) VR 14.....AM high power VR 16.....AM modulation VR 17.....SSB power VR 18.....AM low power What most shops call a peak and tune is turning all of these wied open, and the bad part they rip people off by charging $25 to do it. If you have a watt meter you can do this your self, even if you dont have a watt meter you still can. On your galaxy, turn your rf power knob (on the face of the radio all the way up, set the AM high power(VR 14) at about 6 watts. Turn the rf power knob all the way down and set your AM low power(VR 18) at 2 watts. Turn the AM modulation(VR 16) wide open. I cant remember which way is wide open, but is you turn it fully in one direction and your modulation meter on the radio doesn't swing when you talk into the mic, turn it the other way. When you know which way is wide open, do the same to VR 13 & VR 17. You can find the info on your other radios, on the lower left hand corner of this page, click on Modification List (under tools).
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Hollowpoint445
Senior Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1025 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 9:50 pm: |
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I agree Bruce. That's why I started buying my own equipment and I do it all myself. If I had a couple more pieces I could do a full alignment, but at least I can put the radios on frequency, adjust the AMC/ALC and peak the receivers a little. |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1073 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 7:10 pm: |
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hollowpoint, what are you missing to do a full alignment? matt |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1038 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 8:53 am: |
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I can do a partial alignment, but I can't do a full alignment with test equipment. To do that I'd need a frequency counter that is both accurate and stable, and a VTVM. An oscilloscope that directly reads the output frequency would be nice too, but I can use my station monitor to look at the modulation envelope. I can adjust the TX/RX frequency probably more accurately than a frequency counter using my HF rig (synchronized to WWV) as a reference, but it only adjusts the receive/transmit frequency and not the synthesizer frequency itself. |
Sparkomatic
Intermediate Member Username: Sparkomatic
Post Number: 390 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 8:34 am: |
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The Cobra 148 GTLs won't do much of anything unless they are peaked. Radios that are not peaked sound as flat as a board. SSB performance would be pityful at best. If the radio is on frequency then just have the modulation opened up. I don't understand all the talk about oscillscopes but if you want to make a radio sound impressive open it up, if not....leave it stock and sound like you have a $25 radio. |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1060 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 8:03 pm: |
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Other than frequency error, I think most SSB radios sound just fine on SSB right out of the box. With the huge filtering advantage of SSB, touching up the ALC is usually not as beneficial as adjusting the AMC for AM. |