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Foxracing
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Post Number: 83
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 7:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was wondering which beam antennas on the market would be a good one for the following reasons.1)Me wanting it not to be so big. 2)And for it to work real good (efficiant). I will be running my RCI 2950DX with a Afterburner Plus (two tube amp). I would like that to work real good for local talk on my home channel. Distance for local talk would be like 40 miles on a good day. In all directions. Not to be pickey but I would perfer it not to be more than 4 elemant. Also a rotar that would be able to turn it. I will probibly be putting in a 60 foot maple tree with the top of the tree trimmed.

Thanks to Everyone..

FOX 73's
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Xlaxx
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Post Number: 246
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 9:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PDL - 2,... you can still find them out there.
Radio Shack TV Rotor,... cheap, and will turn it.

My 2 cents
XLAXX
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Bulldog369
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i just bought a m103 everyone told me that is a good beam...so i took there word for it i will be finding out this saturday.... i'll repost an let you know what i think

bulldog.369
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Leonard
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 9:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Bulldog369 I have a M103 also are going to vert or horz?
When it gets warm outside I am going to put it up
but witch is better vert or horz.
I had an astroplane type back years ago but that was just a vert antenna only it had a hoop right in the middle of it.
73's cef#189 Len
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Dx431
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Post Number: 811
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 9:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Leonard,
I have my 103's horizontal with an a99 mounted right above it. I use the a99 for local talking and the beam for dx. If you're going to be using the beam alone, then verticle would be best.

431
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Leonard
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have an I max 2000 for local talk but the only thing I do is give truck driver directions in town.
CB as I know it is kinda dead in town but I have ran across some S.S.B nets in the area.
So needless to say I want to put my beam up A.S.A.P when it warms up so vertical it will be.
Thank you for the fast post and you as well moderator for cheking the post.
Thank you for the input. 73's cef#189 Len

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Bulldog369
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well leonard i was told horz is the way to go for skip shooting... that is how i am going to put mine up on saturday.... i think this will also work for me talking around town cause most of the people i talk are not far an the very loud.. but we'll see what happens...
bulldog/369
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Leonard
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 5:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bulldog Thank you Let me know how it works maybe we can make the hook up on Sunday.
If the dx is good and no major QRM.
73's cef#189 Len
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Bullet
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Post Number: 288
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 8:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

can't go wrong with either the pdL2 or the m103 for small size and good performance,and a rat shack tv rotor will spin them both fine.
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Bulldog369
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hopefully we can leonard--last sunday was not that good... hopefully this week brings much more success... an i will be sure to let everyone know how i make out...
buldog369
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123upmichigan
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you should try a vquad. know someone who has used one for quite a while and he is a boomin station with 500 watts. 60 miles local distance and a good skip talker. but personally moonraker 4 i think they are worth the extra money and the bulk for sure. never had a better dx antenna
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Pig040
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Post Number: 298
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you put it up horizontal, expect your local signal to be degraded. When I use my beam to talk local, my signal is weak compared to my vertical antenna.
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Barracuda
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Post Number: 191
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pig040,
The local signal will only be degraded to those running vertical antennas. Anyone else with a horizontal antenna will not see that effect.
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Bulldog369
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 5:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well lenard if u are looking for a small beam dont go with the 103... its alittle too big for me.... just to let you know..
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Foxracing
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Post Number: 85
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 6:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks alot guys. I guess the PDL2 is good antenna, to use. Also need it to be easy to get into the tree.

Thank To All.....

FOX
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Bulldog369
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

does anyone know the demensions of the pdl 2/ or quad?
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Pig040
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Post Number: 302
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bARRACUDA,
Yes, you are correct, but it is doubtful if any of the mobiles in the area are on horizontal. Hey, did you see the horizontal mobile? I think it is called the star-gunn or something like that? Kind of cool looking.
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Pp1616
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how far away do u stop considering people to be local
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Tech808
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Post Number: 1657
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 3:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, here I figure Local is 25 to 40 miles which is the range of the Group we generally talk with every day & night.

Bloomington/Normal, Minier,Waynesville,Mclean,Atlanta,Lincoln,Downs,Heyworth, Peoria,Morton,Goodfield,Clinton, Carlock, Chenoa, Pontiac, All in Illinois.

Lon
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Foxracing
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Post Number: 87
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 9:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We talk about maybe 5 miles closest to about 50 mile the farthest. So its a pretty good shout on a good day. Keith give you a e-mail tomorrow night.

FOX
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Lowpowerhal
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech 808 Did you ever talk to a guy up in Peoria, His first name is Ted? He had great sounding station, he run a Swan outfit Back in early 70's ? I had a Qsl card from him.Lost about over 500 qsl cards when we moved one time. At any rate he had a whiskey Number, I would be talking to some locals at 2:00 am and he jump in there just like one of the local guys.He most likely has passed away he was in his late 60's back then.He was nice guy, I shur miss his qso's he taught me a whole bunch. He was elmer for shur.I cant remember his last name, if i heard it i could remember.
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Tech808
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Post Number: 1697
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I probably have Hal.

Back in the early 70's There was the RIVER CITY CB CLUB in Peoria and the 1st Sargant and I started the ACTION CITY BREAKER's CB CLUB here in Bloomington.

Back then we had over 300 in our Club and there were several other group's in town also.

Myself and 1st Sargant and CEF #165, #166, #207 & #225 are all leftover's from the ACTION CITY BREAKERS Wayyyyyy Back then.

We may get OLDER but we NEVER GIVE UP!

hehehe


Lon & Shirley
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Nlmadog
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Screaming Eagles of Dayton Ohio,I think that was the name of one club. We used to coffee break every Friday,about 100 people.
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Yote
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know if avanti is still in business?Im looking for a moon raker 4?Thank you!!
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Tech808
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Post Number: 1737
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yote,

Sorry but NO, production on them stopped several year's ago and replacement part's for the Moon Raker's are getting very hard to find.


Lon
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Keithinatlanta
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Post Number: 191
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 7:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Lon, how far back into 70's do you go? I started in CB in 1973 in the spring. Still LOVE IT!!!!!!!!! You said a long way back, that is not far back at all. I used to go to CB jamborees in Denver all the time. A lot of FUN! Can you imagine if we did one just for forum members? Reckon anybody would come? Do you still like the 6900 base? Or should I ask first sargant that ? ?
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Tech808
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Post Number: 1746
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Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 8:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keith,

My love of radio's started back in 1962 or 63 In a Junior High School Ham Radio Club where I got my First Ham Ticket.

After getting discharged from the Marine Corp's I still had several Operation's to go before I got the use of my legs back and started my First Radio Shop in middle of 1970.


Lon
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Applejack
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Post Number: 99
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 9:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

foxracing, you'll have to post a picture of the pdl 2 in the tree. i've never seen ANY kind of antenna in a tree. aj
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Foxracing
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't have a PDL2 in the tree. I have a SOLARCON A-99 in the tree about 65ft up.

FOX
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Cm3885
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Post Number: 270
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 1:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey man, the Signal Engineering PDL look alike(Superhawk? cant think of the name now) is anoither to consider.. Its light and easy to tuen from what i hear.. Theres a guy that lives no too far from me that runs the lightning 4 and he really likes it very much!!! Too bad the moonraker and PDL 2 are no longer being made. They go for a small fortune on Ebay and they are going for more and more each time i see them!!! Old CB stuff is really getting outragously ridicuously expensive anymore!!!!