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Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 1941
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 8:16 am: | 
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Looking for opinions, and to some extent venting at badly controlled dogs.
Most of you know that I live and survive with the use of a Service Dog. part of his training is not to react to other dogs, and may be we went a little too far on this based on Sunday's incident. Most of you don't know that my wife also required a Service Dog for mobility.
Sunday at the dog park our dogs were attacked by what appeared to be be a Pit-bull crossbreed (nothing against the breed, heaps against the owner) . Our dogs, due to their jobs are trained to not react and not to be aggressive, and may be we went a little too far, as neither dog defended themselves, both just tried to walk away.
Fortunately Spock (who took the brunt of this) inherited the triple-layer coat of the Husky, suffered only getting covered in saliva as the other dog couldn't get a grip.
The dogs owner did nothing. Robyn is beating the attacker with the device used to throw tennis balls. Not really effective but gave me the chance to apply a size 9 steel-toed. I did consider two other options - grabbing the dog by the neck - great way for me to get bit, and a more permanent one - which would have been used if it had managed to get a grip on Spock.
At this point, the dogs owner apologized for his dog "being rambunctious". Not exactly what I'd call it.
Unfortunately, I went into a full blown PTSD melt, and Robyn was too busy checking the dogs and me to get the cars number plate. We did report what information we to Animal Control, but with out ID not much they can do.
We have decided, that in the future, both Robyn and i will wear body-cams when we take the dogs for their weekly run. By the way, the park we were at is usually quiet and the few other dogs we have met there all played well with ours, and vice-versa.
Sorry for the vent
Tech237
N7AUS
God made me an athiest, who are you to question his wisdom?
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Charliebrown
Advanced Member
Username: Charliebrown
Post Number: 667
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 9:13 pm: |
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I would at the very least call the law. Then the law should have charged the owner for failure to have his animal's under control. I see where you did call animal control they to could have charged the owner. I have seen cases like yours on Tv court like Judge Judy and usually the owner of the out of control dog is the one that has to pay for all damages to your dog's if there were any. |
Mrnobody
Intermediate Member
Username: Mrnobody
Post Number: 101
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2019 - 7:16 pm: |
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i had something like that happen to me, walking in a local metropark here in Cleveland and a dog attacked mine, I didn't have my gun on me at the time only a single car key, I ended up kicking the sh!t out him, he let loose and then came back again biting my dog in the neck, kicked the sh!t out him again and finally booted him in the nuts and stomped his rear leg, filed charges against the idiot and he failed to appear in court, warrant was issued and they arrested him and his final cost was over 2500$, my dog was fine!
'WHATEVER'
CEF-107
DX #023
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Tech833
Moderator
Username: Tech833
Post Number: 2431
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2019 - 1:46 am: |
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If you have been utilizing a service dog for some time, then you also must know that you do not take a service dog to a dog park to let them "run around".
Service dogs should never be let loose to "run around" except within the confines of your own home or yard, and not around other untrained dogs. EVER.
Fault in this case? Hate to tell you, OM, it was yours.
Your radio 'Mythbuster' since 1998
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Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 1942
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2019 - 11:09 am: |
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833 - that is all well and good IF you have a home that has a yard. if you are unable to afford a home with yard are you supposed to let the dog never get a chance to run?
And actually, you are wrong - Service Dogs, like any other dog do need to socialize from time to time with other dogs - it helps stop the from going stale. Now the untrained I will agree with, and the park we have been using, has up til now been good. usually only one or two dogs there at any time.
As and Addendum - Animal Control were able to ID the guy and his dog. Both have been evicted from several other Dog parks in and around Portland Oregon, where he lives. The dog is now in the Shelter pending a final decision.
Tech237
N7AUS
God made me an athiest, who are you to question his wisdom?
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Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 2472
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2019 - 9:05 pm: |
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Sorry this happened! I think people with aggressive dogs should keep them tightly on a leash and a safe distance away from other dogs and people...
Road Warrior / CEF 375
Tyrone, PA (Jim)
Local ch. 27.505 Am or LSB
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Tech833
Moderator
Username: Tech833
Post Number: 2432
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2019 - 10:20 pm: |
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Again, I am sorry this happened, Simon.
No, you are not supposed to let a service dog "run around".
I am involved in a charity that rescues dogs from shelters and trains them to be service dogs for veterans with needs. I am very aware of the training of dogs and people who will use the service dogs (yes, the people have to be trained also). One of the major things the people need to be taught is that a service dog is a working dog, not a play frisbee dog. If you take a service dog to a dog park and let the dog run around with untrained (non-service type) dogs, then the pack mentality will begin to take over and the dog will regress in its training and duty. Eventually, the dog will not be adequate for service.
This is not the same for comfort dogs and comfort animals, just service dogs.
You are doing your service dog a disservice by introducing uncommanded behavior and untrained dogs in a social off-leash setting.
However, it is your dog, and you are obviously free to do as you wish. You are even free to un-train your service dog if you wish. That is what you are doing by taking your service dog a to a dog park and letting it run around with the pack.
Your radio 'Mythbuster' since 1998
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Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 1943
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 04, 2019 - 8:59 am: |
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833 - lets just say you and I will agree to disagree on this.
The only times I have time I have had issues with Spock dropping training is when we have not been able to go the Dog Park for 2 or 3 weeks.
By the way for the 6 years I had Spock's predecessor,we went to the local dog park weekly. She never, at anytime dropped her training, and was retired because she was getting old and losing her sight.
You stated except within the confines of your own home or yard, " but avoided the inferred question of what are people who don't have a yard supposed to do?
Maybe there needs to be a Park dedicated to Service Dogs only.
Tech237
N7AUS
God made me an athiest, who are you to question his wisdom?
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Tech833
Moderator
Username: Tech833
Post Number: 2433
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2019 - 2:05 pm: |
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Like I said, it is your dog and you are certainly free to do as you wish.
I provided my opinion, which is worth exactly what it cost you to view it.
I'll go back to discussing radios now. 73!
Your radio 'Mythbuster' since 1998
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