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Ballwrecker
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Username: Ballwrecker

Post Number: 7
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 5:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi. I have a connex and a 5pill. Im using a workman HP201S meter, wilson 5000. When i key up the radio and amp. then adjust the meter (dir) turn the SET knob 123456789- the needle use to come up slowly and you would get it right on the end of the red line, then turn the (dir/ref) knob to ref... and it should tell you your SWR... BUT.. when im tryin to turn the knob slowing to get the needle on the end of the red line.. it goes straight from the left side to right side of the meter with having any control adjustment.??? I hope someone understands what im trying to say. please helppp... very frustrated
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Hotwire
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Username: Hotwire

Post Number: 2320
Registered: 1-2005


Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 5:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Be certain that the radios dead key is appropiate for driving the amp. Also it may help to turn the mic gain all the way down so that the radio transmits no audio while dead keying.
Double check all coax jumpers, coax and especially the integrity of the connection inside the Wilson. When an SWR meter does this it could mean you have a short somewhere in the coax.
KEEP IT REAL!
Kenny
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2sf491(27.555usb)
Indiana
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Dale
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Post Number: 996
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

im with kenny on this .and 2 add to that
one way 2 tell is take amp out of line then
try check swrs.if all is well then that will
of course limit the possibilties alot.to just
being a bad jumper or too much drive.if it does
this with amp out of line aswell then theres a
little more of a issue could be bad coax or pinched coax.bad pl259 connection.
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
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Ballwrecker
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 9:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so if the DK is set too high this will cause the issue of needle pegging the meter ??? I never had problems until i went to ( *****) radio to get something done.. and they said they could make it louder.. maybe the new adjustments and whateva else they did was not right ? it DK;s 10w.. 35 on high.. ( it is variable)
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Hotwire
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Post Number: 2329
Registered: 1-2005


Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ballwrecker, I'm not saying that your deadkey being set to high or low is causing the trouble. It is just easier to get all your gear to work properly when you have everything just right. RF getting into places you don't want it to be for instance, sometimes excessive deadkey and modulation over 100% is the culprit. Some CB shops are known for modulation being set for over 100%. Whatever the amp MAX pep is the deadkey should be one fourth of that at 100% modulation. This is how AM mode is supposed to work, that's if premium audio is your thing. I don't know what Connex you have and what amp you running so I couldn't suggest any numbers for you.
Back to the SWR issue.
Israel is correct. You do want to set your swr with the amp off. Actually I check my own swr with antenna , meter and radio only. Nothing you add inline is going to change the swr. Only by changing the length of the antenna can you change the SWR. Once you add componets inline and realize you have a different reading means that one of the componets is not operating correctly or installed incorrectly.
I read though your posts again. What changes have you made to your setup since all was well besides taking it in to the cb shop who modified it? Possible that their "tuneup" has just created the terrible 2nd harmonic from over 100% modulation and who knows what gruesome deeds they did to your beloved Connex!
KEEP IT REAL!
Kenny
cef491(27.115lsb)
2sf491(27.555usb)
Indiana
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Dale
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Post Number: 1000
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 6:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ball wrecker from your last post ya said your radio
dk is 35watts.on high hopefully ya back it down to arouind 2 watts with amp.make sure you also
check jumpers.other than that i agree with hotwire and everyone else
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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Ballwrecker
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Username: Ballwrecker

Post Number: 10
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

its 4300hp, and a fatboy 4pill.. 2879's.... I always thuoght u set the SWR with the amp on and all power cranked up... learn something new everyday. anyways, it used to dk2watts and swing 70ish.. they said that was wrong.. and they set the DK at 10 watts and clipped the AMC.. and the amp is not getting as many watts as it use to on the meter. live n learn.. shoulda just said no.. but couldnt resist the WE CAN MAKE IT LOUDER...
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Dale
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Username: Dale

Post Number: 1002
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 5:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

take radio back to were they clipped the limiter
and tell them to put it back in.then look 2 left
of this post see if its listed in mods and tune
it yourself.not hard just need a watt meter.and
also check yourswrs with amp out of line.then
if swr is ok.then add amp, check swr for changes
if ok finally now check swr with amp on.also
turn your audio all way down mic gain and power mic if ya use one
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64

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